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If they do not care why not ask them some mp3 with their sex scenes

Thousands subcontractors of google/amazon/ms already hear it, why you can't?


There are quite a few reasons. First of all the recordings made by voice assistants aren't connected to your identity (or at least most people don't expect it to). Uploading it yourself for the world to hear links it to you in the minds of most people.

Second of all most people expect that the recordings made by voice assistants aren't going to be shared beyond the walls of Amazon/Google. A few random contractors you won't ever meet hearing you feels different than the entire world including people you know hearing it.

Lastly, Amazon/Google has a good reason to listen to the recordings: improve the technology so it works better for everyone including you. Random strangers have no good reason to listen to recordings of you, only bad reasons.

It really bugs how most people here seem to go "oh if you like using voice assistants why don't you just share everything with the whole world?" Privacy is a spectrum, not a binary choice. Somebody can be comfortable with Amazon/Google using the audio and not be comfortable with a live audio stream accessable to everyone on the internet.


This is like vaccination

Why I have to vaccinate if measles already defeated?

Why I have to fear that all my neighbors send* all video to someone?

* because you do not know that "some corporation" do not sell your video feed to anyone


That's not my point. If we want to talk about the societal impact of mass security camera adoption, fine, but that has little to do with picking a Ring camera for personal use specifically. The only thing that differentiates this from other security camera products is that it's marginally more convenient for police to get access to data if the user wants to submit it. The advice in the article is silly because it doesn't say "don't get a camera because it's helping to create a police state", it's saying "just don't get this one camera".


True

What problem if I (anyone) can know where are you now at any point of time, even you newer allow that

Or any law enforcement agency can arrest you even if you do nothing and software just wrongly identify your face on crime scene

And god forbid if you have not white skin color


What does skin color have to with this? That seems like reckless alarmism. Humans are in the loop to validate facial recognition matches. It’s a first pass filter.


https://academic.oup.com/policing/advance-article/doi/10.109...

https://idatassist.com/can-really-trust-algorithm-predicting...

https://www.propublica.org/article/machine-bias-risk-assessm...

Yup, that alarmism about reality we live

Some DS just not really know or understand how to clean datasets

So some models suddenly use skin color as main predictor of some bad thing

And I assume that you ok with total surveillance.

Hmmm


Ever seen africian or latino men on a grainy camera? It kinda does matter.


Ring cameras aren’t grainy. These are new, 1080p cameras, many with night vision capability. And again, if a human is in the loop then you are talking about a problem that is orthogonal to cameras - would a police officer jump to conclusions based on a poor, grainy match on non-IoT cameras or on photographs? Maybe on rare occasion, but the vast majority of the time, they wouldn’t.


>Security implications of CNAME Cloaking

>While this is considered bad practice for a website to set cookies as accessible to all subdomains (i.e., *.website.com), many do this.

>In that case, those cookies are automatically sent to the cloaked third-party tracker.


So website.com decided to sellout and now the cookies you send to website.com that betrayed your trust are also sent to it's chosen third-party tracker?

That is a distinction without difference. The security implication is storing any data with website.com!


Yes, but www.website.com cookies won't be sent. But you'll have to crack open devtools to figure out which one each website is doing.


Yes, the cookies of the website that installed a third-party tracker to spy on you will be sent to the website and the tracker. They could always do that.


Sooooo

I suppose we are going back to the roots

White lists in hosts file with ips and good sites


You can also use uMatrix or NoScript to disable all JS/XHR (or even CSS and images) from third-party domains by default; and whitelist those you need.


Hmm

How can I block cookies with uMatrix for sub domains like *.domain.com for any site?

PS: I assume that just temporary solution. Because nextsstep is just hosting some js from "analytics" on main domain and/or solutions like cloudflare for e-commerce / google news / etc.

And for filtering that bs we need deep filtering and api inside JS VM


You can't block an IP address with a hosts file; you can't even use wildcards in them. You will need a firewall rule.


>You will need a firewall rule.

Yes

Or DNS


What a wonderful nineteen eighty four


Yeah but in the case of Apple is more A Brave New World than a 1984


You know, you do not need "export" anything if you occupy territory

And if you have plans for 20-50 years you don't even need military or police force

Just buy any politician and push your ideology and rewrite history books. And in 50 years people can't think that was something else

And 50 years it is a lot. In rusian federation that was done by less that 5 years

1984


Did you mean that old organisation which defend world from soviet invasion?


I hope this is sarcasm?

The things the USA did supposedly in the name of stopping "red danger" were utterly dispicable, and still have an impact today.


Please don't take HN threads further into nationalistic flamewar. This is the last thing we need here.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html


You are simply wrong on so many levels. NATO is the reason why the iron curtain stayed where it was and why the Russian federation hasn't steam-rolled Western Europe.

If you believe the US is the only actor that benefitted from this development, you're somehow ignoring about 800 million people and over two dozen countries who remained free and independent thanks to NATO.


Please fight the cold war somewhere else. We don't want flamewars here.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html


> You are simply wrong on so many levels. NATO is the reason why the iron curtain stayed where it was and why the Russian federation hasn't steam-rolled Western Europe.

There are no historical artifacts claiming that USSR ever had a serious plan to "steamroll" Western Europe. If anything, they were deathly terrified of NATO incursion into Russia and almost pathologically attached to creating a buffer zone of Warszaw Pact states.

Please do not mix up US cold war propaganda with historic facts, those are not quite the same.


Wait

So you think that "red danger" was fake?

Or "red danger" did (and do) less despicable things?


Nationalistic and ideological flamewar are not welcome here. No more of this, please, on HN.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html


> So you think that "red danger" was fake

I didn't say that - I think the US reaction to the threat was horrendous.

> Or "red danger" did (and do) less despicable things?

That's whataboutism - you would hope that a country that bills itself as "land of the free" would aim for a little better than that.


This whole thread is based on whataboutism! It’s supposed to be about Chinese influence, and then someone derailed it into talking about American influence, and now the whole thread is 90% comments about America and 10% comments about China.

Note: this also happens in pretty much every other thread about a country that isn’t America. God forbid anyone ever discuss anything else, Americans want to relitigate the same old tired “why my country sucks” debates!

And for what? Is any useful information being conveyed? No, it’s mostly just some kind of social status signalling — Americans of certain insecure social class feel the need to complain about America at every opportunity to distinguish themselves from people of a lower social class because patriotism is coded as a low-class activity.

Yes you’re all very sophisticated and I’m sure you like high speed trains and such. Can we please stop talking about the same thing all the time?

Love,

A non American


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The 2 scenarios are not mutually exclusive - the threat from communism could have been averted without overthrowing democracies, arming terrorists etc.

Something like 200k people died in the civil war that ensued in Guatamala after the US-backed coup. And that is but one example. It could be argued that a lot of the violence and instability in Latin America is as a result of US intervetion.


"red danger"? Like when Cuban intervened in Angola and murdered 10's of thousands or dozens of others horrors around the globe?

Hell, just think of how many excessive deaths have been caused around the globe by the USSR's push of socialism, retarding growth by decades everywhere it won.

You'd have to be a hard core ideologue to not look at the 20th century and think the "red danger" wasn't the most evil thing to ever happen to humanity.


Please don't take HN threads further into nationalistic or ideological flamewar.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html


soviets never pushed socialism

Never

That word was a mask for totalitarian ideology


> Hell, just think of how many excessive deaths have been caused around the globe by the USSR's push of socialism, retarding growth by decades everywhere it won.

Hell, just think of the violence, misery and excessive deaths that have occurred across Latin America and the Middle East because of the USA's interventions.

My point is that just because the USSR did worse, doesn't excuse the USA's actions, which still have an impact to this day.


Are you conveniently forgetting the forceful seizure of an entire continent, displacement of native populations, importing millions of human beings to be used as slaves, colonization and plunder of natural resources across the globe, and deliberate destabilization of regions for profit?

You need to check out the rose glasses you're wearing yourself


Please don't take HN threads further into nationalistic or ideological flamewar. Also, please be careful not to cross into personal attack, which is a force multiplier on all things bad here.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html


I don't think someone should even consider to get used to commie influence

Or in 5-10 years that someone will be in situation worse than HK now


I don't think that "people" are interested in USA

CCP - yes


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