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I'm fascinated by this kind of reflective engagement between human and AI creativity. Human makes an AI joke; second human finds the joke funny and thinks for a minute of an absurd sub-joke; AI fills in joke details; human interacts with sub-joke by making up review; ....

I hope something really fun for you comes out of the unexpected scale.


A gap like cannot be closed without corporate and foundation gifts. That said, individual gifts can also contribute to the progress.

As is common with schools, parks districts, etc., the Open Source Lab partners with a 501(c)(3) organization, the Oregon State University Foundation, to accept tax-deductible donations.

For anyone who would like to directly support the Open Source Lab in staying open, please be sure to indicate "Open Source Lab Fund" on the Oregon State Foundation donation page [0]. Note that their form is *not* set up with any tracking to attribute your gift from your clickthrough, and that any general donations to the Foundation will likely *not* support the Lab in this effort to stay open.

[0] https://give.fororegonstate.org/PL1Uv3Fkug, or click through from the general donation page.


Oooo dang, the lack of an "opt out of future emails" checkbox really gives me pause there. Charitable donations are second only to vehicle purchases in the avalanche of shit they trigger.

Welp. Did it anyway. There's a "make my donation anonymous" checkbox on the second page, but that doesn't actually specify whether it opts out of emails, or merely hides my name from some list. Well, it's worth it either way.


Use the hyphenated email filter trick.


I thought it was a plus sign?


What is this trick?



I was being malicious and dropped down onto the hovering pink cube outside the play area on the final level. Once you roll off that pink cube your respawn point is on the cube, leaving you stuck and unable to get back to the main course.

NBD but sharing in case you want this kind of playtesting feedback!



This line is really interesting:

> The best interests of the company and the mission always come first.

That is absolutely not true for the nonprofit inc. The mission comes first. Full stop. The company (LLC) is a means to that end.

Very interested to see how this governance situation continues to change.


There's absolutely no sense in talking about OpenAI as a nonprofit at this point. The new board and Altman talk about the governance structure changing, and I strongly believe they will maximize their ability to run it as a for-profit company. 100x profit cap is a very large number on an $80 billion valuation.


Ya, it's a joke at this point. Better they just kill the non-profit and stop pretending.


Surely they don't do it without a reason. And I don't know what the reason is, but I must assume it's some financial benefit (read, tax evasion), and not our opinion.


Why doesn't the government do it for them, fining them along the way?


I have no idea how it will all play out, but I will be shocked if there is no government investigation coming out of all this.


Yea, it seems really weird that he and others can just form a non-profit and then later have it own a for-profit with the full intention of turning everything into a for-profit enterprise. Seems like tax evasion and a few other violations of what a non-profit is supposed to be.


Yep, if this is an acceptable fact pattern, it seems to create a bunch of loopholes in the legal treatment of non-profits vs for-profits. I think the simpler conclusion is that it actually isn't an acceptable fact pattern, and we'll be seeing fines or other legal action.


But then they’d have to pay taxes, and all those corporations don’t get the juicy tax detections for “donating” to AI tech that will massively increase their profits.


Change the name while you are at it; the company is not any more "open" than the next shop.


Indeed, I think it's the least open of them all?


There never was. But they successfully planted the seeds to make people think it is that way.


100x is basically just a “they won’t literally take over the economy of the entire planet”


The author agrees with you. They're saying that the lack of legal protection for fonts is a problem, and that creating an opportunity to challenge that law would be a good thing.

Courts can only weigh in on legal issues when people bring a dispute before the court. In this case, if someone did what the author describes it would trigger a lawsuit from typographers, which would give the court a chance to (re)interpret or overturn the existing law.


The question is, essentially, "should bitmap fonts be copyrightable". In many jurisdictions, they are not. In the US, this has been black-letter law for several decades. A purely mechanical image reproduction of a typeface does not enjoy legal protection. I think it should remain that way. Many fonts are extremely similar, and allowing rights to the design itself would result in fights over the most basic of typeface design, similar to that seen in the music industry (where there have been efforts to claim rights to a chord progression).

Outline fonts (that contain programmable elements) are considered software and are copyrightable. A rendered output of such a font is not. It may legally matter who makes that rendered output, that they have the right to use the font software in that fashion. But someone working from a specimen? They should have the right to digitize that font themselves, and employ creative decision-making in placing the control points. In fact, that very thing has happened numerous times within the typography industry.


I think the vast majority of typefaces can’t really have legal protection from a creative stand point because they’re so close to each other that it’s incredibly hard to argue that they’re original content.

Just compare Inter vs Roboto vs San Francisco. Are they different? Technically yes. Are they different enough to allow for all three to be granted legal protection? I’d say no. And if you say yes, then it comes down to how different is different enough and the entire field becomes a legal nightmare


"That Picasso looks like that Braque, so neither deserves protection"


No. The given the author's background, this is (admittedly) clever technical thinking done under the guise of making a legal/political statement. Plenty of other ways to solve this problem besides fake 'good intentions' slacktivism.


I strongly second the suggestion to explore operating as a non-profit if you continue.

My local incarnation, BARN[0][1] is a financially sustainable nonprofit. However, we wouldn't be sustainable as a for-profit company, certainly not if we had investors chasing a return.

[0] bainbridgebarn.org

[1] Disclosure: I'm the executive director and deeply in love with this place. Happy to connect to share our experiences with anyone seriously considering a similar path.


Small world - I'm the (as of 4 days ago former) board chair of a makerspace in Salt Lake City[0]. Our former shop manager is from Port Townsend and couldn't say enough about you guys.

We are also a financially sustainable nonprofit. I'm convinced that's the only long term viable way to do a makerspace that targets hobbyists and small businesses/craftspeople.

[0] https://makesaltlake.org


That's awesome, small world indeed. Make Salt Lake looks great.

Yeah I share that conviction. This space is less about creating value and capturing a part of it than creating community (though done well the value created by a thriving community _is_ substantial). And for reasons I've only partially grokked, many people are willing to contribute to a community backed by a tax-exempt 501(c)(3) corporation but not a regular corporation.


1. They get a substantial tax deduction- as much as half the donation, and the foundation pays no tax.

2. It makes them feel that they have done something good by donating to an educational foundation.

Note that not all tax-exempt nonprofits are 501(c)(3) educational foundations. You need that for the donation to be deductible for the donor.


Likewise, I'm currently on the management team at Hive76 in Philadelphia, and yeah - we couldn't operate as a for-profit company. We're a nonprofit, we're all volunteers, and while that means things move (sometimes a lot) more slowly, we can operate on razor-thin margins. We couldn't afford to pay one person's salary, but as a volunteer org we can keep going so long as we can afford rent/utilities/tools/consumables.


Hey it's a Johnnie HN thread. There are dozens of us. Dozens!

I've been very loosely involved in Interintellect[0], which itches a similar scratch and looks spiritually very similar to the Catherine Project, with perhaps less of a focus on great books and a wider, more modern gamut.

For anyone considering Catherine Project, Interintellect, or St. John's College, I heartily recommend them. Diligently reading through deep written work, then discussing it with other people genuinely interested and invested in the work and the dialogue is a wonderful experience and one that's hugely shaped me.

[0]https://interintellect.com/


I don't understand why this is being downvoted. Bankruptcy is a tool to encourage efficient risk-taking and solving otherwise tricky collective action problems for creditors.

There's an unfortunate stigma about bankruptcy in the U.S. which leads to _far_ fewer people/businesses filing bankruptcy than should be.

No one is better off limping along under unsustainable debt, not businesses and not individuals. We need to get rid of this stigma and let people use the tools we put in place to solve these problems.


Came here to say this. It's entertaining and enjoyable reading that happens to be about financial topics. It is to financial literacy what "take a long vacation in France" is to learning French.


Personal pain point: Math seems to be a growing topic on the web and tools like MathJax are a popular tool for talking about Math. But (most? all?) RSS readers won't render MathJax. Does anyone have a simple and effective way to handle display issues like that?


There's a bookmarklet that renders Tex/LaTeX, MathML and AsciiMathML notation on pages dynamically using the MathJax.

I use it mainly with feedbin. It works most of the time

https://www.checkmyworking.com/misc/mathjax-bookmarklet/


You could CDATA a MathJax-produced SVG, but I don't know how well that would be supported in RSS readers. I doubt accessibility extensions would work correctly either.


Isn't there a way to default back to a rendered image if MathJax isn't supported?


That won't work unless you embed scripts into the RSS and run those (which kind of defeats the point of "really simple syndication" and would lead to JS-heavy monstrosities).


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