Because it IS futile. Occam's Razor shaped hobby project, that what it is. Where is the market share? Nowhere, because existing browsers are good enough and no corporation pushes Ladybird.
Showing how far one can go with modern AI tooling does matter only a little when all you do is looking at Chromium/Firefox code and recompiling the logic of it in another language.
> Showing how far one can go with modern AI tooling does matter only a little when all you do is looking at Chromium/Firefox code and recompiling the logic of it in another language.
Is that what Ladybird does? Can you point to a real world example? From the blog post, it seems there are real world differences (look at the performance when resizing with heavy JS!).
You're also mixing arguments. The original arguments against ladybird (which I vividly remember as I loved following them back then) were that it would be impossible to arrive at something that works for all use cases. Ladybird would be able to render toy websites like hacker news, but nothing of worth.
> it's not 1980 anymore, browsers exist, and they have marketshare
Okay, sure. What was the market share for Chrome in 1999?
There are legitimate arguments against Ladybird. But pointing to the market share of a non-existent product, in a category on the verge of a paradigm shift from AI, is not one of them.
Technically it is... According the original vision for workstation, a computer with >1MB RAM, >1 megapixel of screen resolution, >1 MIPS and costing under 1 Mega cents (10K dollars).
My laptop is shockingly competitive with my quite nice workstation.
(IMO the really impressive part is the thermals. My laptop can dissipate some 45W on a sustained basis, and my workstation takes quite a bit more than 45W to outperform my laptop.)
6 years ago i had a lenovo thinkpad p1, branded by lenovo as a portable workstation. Today i have macbook pro m5 max, much faster and more powerful than the lenovo, so why not call it a workstation?
Does the size (below 1GB) and speed of launch (less than minute per day or so) matter that much? It feels like you forgot to mention running utility programs on small embedded computers, microcontrollers even, is your priority.
Matters to me. I'm personally tires of slopware (of both human and LLM variety) that takes 1GB of disk space and RAM for no reason, especially with current RAM prices. If all desktop software I use was as efficient as artcraft rewrites, my experience using computers would be significantly better.
Developers should have higher performance standards now that DX matters way less (you're not writing code by hand anyway).
<TvTropesLink>Taking You With Me</TvTropesLink>, hmm?
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Anyway, I immediately noticed the opening graphic is... well, bizzarely wrong.
There is a logo of Salesforce. Yes, a big software company, opposing it fits nicely into the agenda.
Then you see a logo of... AWS?
Not even Amazon per se, AWS.
Amazon Web Services.
A cloud computing subsidiary.
A HARDWARE subsidiary.
Not software, which OccupySaas aims to replicate cheaply, hardware.
Hardware.
Tens of billions of worth in hardware.
How does that fill the software liberation agenda?
Then you see logo, er, favicon of Google. Perhaps entirety of Alphabet is targeted, perhaps not, who knows.
But not only Alphabet is a cloud computing giant - again, hardware, not software, hardware - but Google itself is a huge CONSUMER-facing brand. Not business facing. What does that mean? Is the logo of Google Docs not iconic enough?
Then you see the logo with a letter N in a box. What does that mark?
Yeah, I know.
Notion, a groupworking platform.
I checked it and, yeah, annual revenue of Notion does not exceed $1 billion. Even.
For comparision, Salesforce nears almost $44 billion as of now. Notion is not even visible at this scale. Not even a mini-major, but a independent <scratch off>film company</scratch off> software house. It's not even publicly listed (yet).
(Hacker News should really add buttons to apply basic visual formatting options for comments. Trivial to apply. Seriously)
Why Notion was choosed but not SAP? Why not Workday? Why not Shopify? Autodesk, even?
(There is also logo of Microsoft)
The graphic clearly went "to print" with nary a check.
I'd really like to see a comprehensive test of all of those 100s of agentic harnesses. Get a billionaire to give a million to crunch through them all within a week or so.
I’m self employed, which means there is less than zero chance I could rely on self-hosted AI. $200/mo for virtually unlimited use, or $10k for a machine that will be less capable and slower?
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