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A key patent on this is held by a friend of mine. He tried to monetise this tech way before operators were ready.

I forget what the company was called, m-pay or something like that.


3.1 million Vietnamese died. But they don't count in USAian math.

https://www.britannica.com/event/Vietnam-War


Yes, that's a travesty, and it has absolutely nothing to do with the conversation thread.

And what happened? They poked the bear and it turned their electricity grid off. Something NATO would have done in the first 4 hours, not take 4 years.

Right.

Ppl behave as if Russia isn't sitting on the world's conventional weapons cache, and largest weapons production capability.

Or that Ukraine wasn't sitting on the second largest cache of conventional weapons, particularly Soviet era AD.


Trump is trying to take control of the global energy market in a desperate attempt to alleviate the effects of the world dumping the dollar.

He thinks he can remain the global hegemon playing such games, will work for a short time but the dollar is done for.


I think like most people in power, he works to satisfy a domestic agenda. If he can use this to leverage a lower pump price, he wins. If he can gain traction with the oil companies in dispute over stranded assets and losses in Venezuela, he wins. It has nothing to do with anyone else, any global need, or intent.

That he can now choke oil entry to Cuba is only an added extra, Rubio in partiular will love that. It's causing extreme economic distress there.

There is no neutral arbiter, no single viewpoint declaring good or bad in these things. States act as they need to the situation they find themselves in. If it sounds amoral it is: there is no dimension of need for this to be decided on morals or even economics. It just advantages the administration right now, here, at this time, and tomorrow it may not but tomorrow is another day.


He has expressed worry over the BRIC rumoured currency threatening even more tariffs for countries not using the dollar.

Also, regional geopolitics aside, the oil companies are still mad about Iran's oil. The Israelis have been talking up a nuclear threat for decades, hasn't happened yet.

It's always about oil. I have no sympathy for the Iranian regime, but if I was part of that gang, I would be frantically building nukes.

Oil and no nukes is a bad combination.


I’ve been wondering if the showdown in Iran if it leads to a conflict will bifurcate the oil prices, the US vs rest of the world. If the Middle East is in smokes then the US can dictate oil prices with its control of the supplies in Guyana and Venezuela.

You're overthinking it.

Trump doesn't play 5D chess or whatever, he doesn't think in terms of grand global strategy. He's got dementia and can't string five words together without going off on a tangent.

The only model you need of Trump's decision making process is this: He's doing what would have been a good idea when he was a young man.

His formative years have etched a set of policies into his brain, and there's no way he'll unlearn decades and decades of out-dated geopolitics in his sunset years.

Oil was critical in the 70s and 80s![1] The US was a net importer, unlike now. That's why he thinks controlling the oil is so important. That's all. No other reason.

That's why industry heads are all looking at each with raised eyebrows and silently mouthing "What the f%#$? Why would we invest in that!?"

Similarly with tariffs: They might have made sense decades ago, before the USA become so deeply entwined in global production chains, before all manufactured goods got complicated.

Ditto with coal. It was the cheapest and best source of energy... in the 80s.

[1] There were oil crises in 1973 and 1979, and imports peaked in 1980 when Trump was in his 40s.


Somebody on staff dreamed this up, he's just saying yes. I agree to the above being how it sold to him, but he didn't think this up, I would expect somebody else decided this was their 4D chess move, and he got the headlines.

That too! It's pretty obvious that he's being taken advantage of by everyone he meets. If this was happening to some kindly grandpa in an old folks home, you'd call it elder abuse.

It was most obvious with the $10 trillion Ukraine minerals deal, which was nonsense cooked up by a senator to "sell" Trump on the merits of allying with Ukraine long-term.

Russia tried this approach too. Their offer is $12 trillion dollars -- of course it's more than what Ukraine supposedly had on the table -- a laughable amount considering their entire GDP is only $2 trillion! Even if they gave the USA something crazy like 10% of their gross domestic production (most of which is not exportable!) this would take 60 years of ruinous payments.

You can only throw a number like this at someone if you're absolutely certain that they're totally innumerate and won't laugh in your face.

Think about the second-order implications of this: multiple people in the Whitehouse or Congress are confident in their knowledge that Trump can't tell the difference between a billion and a trillion, and/or has no idea about the size of another country's economy.[1]

Just to clarify: This is not "my opinion" about his numeracy, or lack thereof! This is the opinion of multiple senior staff who have his ear.

[1] Think back to my point about Trump's world view being "dated" to the 1970s and 80s: Back then, Russia's GDP was on par with the United States -- they were roughly equal superpowers! That's where he gets his intuition from, his ballpark numbers, relative strength, etc... THAT is why he treats Putin as an equal instead of a tinpot dictator that just happens to have nukes.


That's an interesting insight into his background. Now that you've mentioned it, there was at least one oil CEO who called Venezuela "uninvestable."

https://www.timesnownews.com/business-economy/economy/venezu...


> Now imagine being debanked by your own government because they don't like what you're saying and becoming unemployed, homeless and dead. I don't think they're remotely comparable.

You don't have to imagine it.

Alina Lipp, Thomas Röper, Xavier Moreau, Col Jacques Baud, Nathalie Yamb. The last two are Swiss nationals. The Baud case is interesting because he's a Belgian resident who now can not even buy food or pay his bills while living in his own home.


> The State exists to protect large monied interests and their power, and those entities in exchange will sell out individuals to the State that seek to undermine their power. The State will never not do this.

Reminds me of a certain ideology, can't quite put my finger on it.

I think it starts with F


I find it funny how many people think that Capitalism and Fascism are compatible or the same... completely disregarding the fact that Fascism is a form of Socialism borne out of the limitations of Communism.

From just the economic point of view, fascism is the state controlling and collaborating with large corporations.

There's a little more to it than that... but what most people ascribe as "fascism" conflates with authoritarianism, which includes the political and economic structures the people talking or using the "F" word generally do support.

There's no communism that doesn't lead to authoritarianism, for example. Which leaves the distinction about economics.


>>There's no communism that doesn't lead to authoritarianism

Unless you believe this because "there's no State that doesn't lead to authoritarianism (based, dope, great take)" saying "this thing is actually the exact same as a thing that is literally the opposite of it" is just whataboutism.

These takes are weak. Here's what I think fascism is (based on like, studying words and theory and philosophy and shit, and not just trying to stunt on my political opposites): It's a far-right, ultra-nationalist, violent, authoritarian world view that SEEKS centralized power and openly opposes liberal and communist parties where it is erected. By design and declaration it seeks to promote violence, masculinity, and a national rebirth to a bygone era lacking in modern decadence.

All this is to say, if you're an Anarchist (hi brother!) seeking to scold the commies for not being Left enough, save that for after the revolution. And if you just want everyone to equate commies with fascists because "then both bad" because you're Right of them, get better at rhetoric.


Which definition of Fascism would you like me to use to prove you wrong?

Also, please don't look at the wikipedia article that literally says "fascism is opposed by...communism".



Singapore was never "cool." It was always a shopping mall masquerading as a city.

Or Trump's pirate navy could call them drug dealers and blow them out of the water.

They work for Putin's war, so they they should be treated as hostile navy anyway. They'd be lucky if they'll end up arrested and not blown up. Ukraine does blow them up already when opportunity presents itself.

The world is lucky that President Putin is a rational actor.

Trump and his neocon masters on the other hand seem to be itching to start WW-3.

As for The Ukraine - there's no such thing as "Ukraine" - if they are lucky they will be left with a rump state, hopefully landlocked.


If Putin was a rational actor he probably wouldn't be putting up WWI casualty numbers to capture podunk towns in east Ukraine that few people care about

Take a look at the body exchange ratios. For every KIA body The Ukraine returns to Russia, they get back 20 to 30.

Of course, you don't know this because the West has censored real news.


Axis Sally detected. Putin is a fascist scum and only his mouthpieces claim that "there is no Ukraine".


That's risible, coming from a country where oil, pharma and the military complex openly run the government via "lobbying."

BTW, if Putin had placed missiles and nukes in say Cuba what do you think would have happened? Oh wait, we already know. The charming JFK showed us.

The problem with debating USAians on the internet is that not only are they woefully inadequately educated, they also completely lack self-awareness.


Are you paid for it or you spread fascist koolaid for free? Either way, Putin's money is running out. So unless you are a propaganda zombie, you can forget about relying on your fascist boss.


Doing Goebbels's "education"? Better learn some history.

I genuinely laughed out loud at this comment. Are you even dimly aware that you're following Goebbels' playbook?

Hilarious.

https://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/goeb59...


Typical Putin-style garbage - blaming others for your own faults. No one buys your koolaid here, fascist troll. Go troll your masters.

Yawn. Like I said, wilfully ignorant.

The last refuge of the uneducated: slurs.

I don't need to show respect to Axis Sallies.

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