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I like glasses like these, but just for a simple use case.

I picked up a pair of factory refurb VITURE Pro XR for $130 and they are fantastic for watching movies from my phone on a trip, or playing games from like a steam deck.

They really are native 1080p 120Hz micro OLED screens. Fantastic contrast and brightness.

I don't care at all about the head tracking or passthrough or any of that stuff. To me they are just a simple fixed floating huge high quality screen that I can use on the go.

I'm also able to watch 3D movies on them with of course zero crosstalk and that's pretty neat too!

If anyone else is interested in trying these types of glasses here they are for $152 (with coupon SHOPNOW15) certified refurb from the original company with an excellent 30 day return policy.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/389249036434


How are they for reading text editors?

They can certainly work for that, they are quite clear and sharp, but sometimes you can get a sample with a soft spot on the lens, in that case return and try again is my only suggestion. I bought only 1 of these from the eBay link I sent last year when they were slightly cheaper and got a perfect sample on the first try.

I actually used them like this when I was stuck in bed after a back surgery for a couple weeks, plugged into my laptop.

They do make a newer model now that is actually fairly stripped down in terms of functionality but is supposed to have the best clarity, the VITURE Pro 2 XR, and new they are only $300, and you can get a 10% off coupon for their site, so they are $270 new which isn't bad at all.

Many companies are making these glasses (Xreal, Viture RayNeo, Rokid, etc). They are all fundamentally the same thing. Same micro OLED panels and similar optical design. But they keep adding more features like better head tracking, better built in audio (I just use my AirPods Pro 2), built in cameras, more on-board processing for 3D stuff, that just makes the price go higher, so it's nice to see they still make a new pair with stripped down features for those of us who just want a basic display and for fairly cheap still.

I think you just need to try it to see for yourself if it works for your use case. The return policy is really good.

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Is this something that you would use in coffee shop and exchange for an external computer monitor? I have been really on the fence about investing in something like this

I have the same question, but change “coffee shop” to tiny apartment (with only one desk and 2 people with remote jobs). Taking this with me for work-cations seems like it could be fun but it would have to support cross-platform (osx) and there would have to be strong signals that it’s not a pair of “pervert glasses” if I’m to use them in a public setting.

They just show up as a DP over USB-C monitor, so they work natively in any OS or phone etc. I don't really think you would have any problem with them in a public setting.

I think yes. But I think it would be a really individual decision based on a few factors. I say at $150 and an easy return why not try since you have been on the fence?

I have Viture glasses and love them

What if you use prescription lenses?

The ones I linked have built in diopter adjustment, but if it's insufficient you can get clip in lens inserts.

You can get prescription lens inserts. If you're just near sighted some of the models have built in adjustment.

It's a misconception that the immune system builds future resistance from past infections?

Their demo is also mobile app development using touchscreen for testing apps in the simulator.

This is the one thing I'm rather excited to use the touchscreen for. Would be genuinely useful to me right now. Beyond that though...... I can't see using Touch much.

I hope this sells well enough that they might later go the EXTRA step to a Pencil supported 360-hinged MBP.

I'm a hardcore iPad Pro + Pencil lover. And I'm very tired of carrying both a MacBook for the full OS + keyboard, PLUS a whole separate tablet for sketching, illustration, annotation, etc.


Testing touchscreen experiences for other devices is the main thing I can imagine actually using this for.

Pretty useless, it's easy to simulate touches and gestures already.

Not multi-touch gestures.

I think there was a modifier key + click and drag to simulate a pinch, so at least some gestures can be simulated. But since one is developing for the mobile device, it makes sense to tether the device and send builds to test out on the target device itself.

Seems like a slim use case, no?

From past experience (not for quite a few years, but some at least): oh heck no. I loved simulating locally, but the deeply limited touch handling made it infeasible a lot of the time. The dev -> install -> run -> dev cycle is dramatically faster in the emulator, and you don't need to have multiple devices nearby if you're building custom UI for each size.

Macbook Pros attempt to cater to every slim use case simultaneously, with the idea that if they can handle a use case someone else can’t, they’ll sell another laptop.

yea but if the company is footing the bill...

Yap, you can do that too

I mean it seems like a good idea to me for mobile app development, being able to touchscreen the simulator.

That seems like a great use case for it.

How many Macbook Pro owners are mobile app developers though?


They sell other equally capable MacBook pros if this isn’t your use case?

But without the new screen, which is genuinely impressive and a noticeable upgrade.

And nicer new screens cost more money!

You don’t have to touch it?


Conceivably there were considerable technical challenges in bringing touch functionality to market, an R&D cost that gets passed onto consumers. It's not like the touch screen is just being given to us for free.

My point is I'm not sure why everyone needs to pay the premium for a touchscreen in order to get the screen upgrade when touch functionality on a laptop screen is clearly a polarizing feature (judging from the comments on this thread alone) that a minority of consumers actually want or need.


This is not just a Mac-specific thing. On a lot (dare I say most?) Windows devices if you upgrade the screen (OLED, higher res, high refresh etc) it generally also comes along with touch whether you want it to or not.

There’s only so many levels of customization manufacturers are willing or able to offer.


Not sure, but I bet most mobile app developers are MacBook users haha.

I mean it's a $400 up-charge over the same model without touchscreen. Not that unreasonable if you are a heavy app developer IMO.


Simulation is already great, and one can (and should) test their app on device.

Is it really that useful if you need to test on real hardware anyway?

It would be useful. You do need to test on real devices but the vast majority of dev time I run the apps in simulator.

Even when developing a mobile app and using the simulator, you never wished you could touchscreen the simulator?

I mean it's only $400 more than the LED non-touch screen.

Seems like it would be useful for app development being able to do touchscreen for the iOS and iPadOS simulators.


I much prefer using an actual device, which is required for a lot of other hardware features anyway.

This is exactly why I'm considering it. It sounds super useful to feel the drag gestures while developing. Same with website testing when they are meant to be used on a phone/tablet mostly.

Since when have you not been able to easily find a free youtube video for this?

You can't ask a YouTube video, which often is different in subtle ways to your problem, clarifying questions.

The step-by-step customized hand holding of LLMs is something totally new


The 512GB option actually has a better chip with 1 more CPU core and twice the neural engine...

What does twice the "neural engine" get me?

For about the same cost, I can get a used M5 chip with both a Neural Engine™ and GPU cores each with Neural Accelerators™


That seems high. 14 hours of my salary (pretax) goes to my rent.


If code doesn't do what it says, isn't that a compiler issue?


c/++ programers will say it's a skill issue


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