Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submit | alberth's commentslogin

Who would have guessed the Smithsonian of all organizations would have so many video popup ads.

Isn’t the greatest experience on mobile when so little of the content can be seen due to popups.


Smithsonian Mag used to be the Institution’s brain‑child, now it’s just a click‑bait lifestyle tabloid full of celebs. The magazine’s editorial directives have diverged from the institutions mission. They care more about pageviews and ads than research.

The front page has none of those things; I see:

* "Queen Bumblebees’ Tongues Aren’t Built for Slurping Nectar"

* "Why the Computer Scientist Behind the World’s First Chatbot Dedicated His Life to Publicizing the Threat Posed by A.I."

* "NASA to Resume Search for Missing Mars Orbiter"

* "Spaceflight Temporarily Changes the Position and Shape of Astronauts’ Brains, MRI Data Suggests"

... and more of the same.

Where have you seen what you describe?


I can appreciate their troubles. How is someone supposed to pay for all the overhead that goes into research and writing these articles without a source of income. People also seem dead against subscriptions. The only way that seems to work is appealing to the LCD and raking in stream bucks but not all media/literature, especially the valuable kind, is conducive to that model.

"How is someone supposed to pay for all the overhead that goes into research and writing these articles without a source of income?"

Some people here think it's wonderful most of Wikipedia was built without paying its editors. Depends who you ask.


That’s compiling existing research and information. What about new research with field agents and equipment? The Smithsonian does a lot of that.

>How is someone supposed to pay for all the overhead that goes into research and writing these articles without a source of income.

I'm not sure, but we've been trying the online advertising model for a few decades now, and it's been terrible. Pop-ups, pop-unders, malware, I could go on and on. At some point it's fine to just say "no" to the advertisers after so much abuse.

Also, there's nothing stopping a website from hosting their own ads: these generally are not blocked by ad-blockers because they're served from the same domain, rather than a known ad-serving domain. But they never want to do this for some reason.


The site hosting the ads seems like a red herring? Do you mean they could sell or design their own ads? If so, that seems like a difficult proposition.

If we accept that most people won’t pay a subscription, and take ads off the table as an option, then I can only think of 2 other options:

* charitable patrons (this is a thing, but I guess not effective enough?) * selling other products to subsidize the free content

These both appear to have obvious problems and for a dubious goal of making another party subsidize the visitor’s consumption cost.

Having the visitor cover their own cost seems reasonable. What currency do they have other than money or attention? Maybe a small work problem that provides an abstracted service to a separate payer (a la reCAPTCHA, but for $).


>Do you mean they could sell or design their own ads?

No, I mean they could host their own ads. The way ad-blockers work is that they see requests from a web page to other domains, particularly known ad-serving domains, so they reject those requests, take those elements out of the page, etc. But they don't alter self-hosted images. So if a web page has a bunch of JPGs which are really ads and not just helpful illustrations, and embeds those into the page, the ad-blocker has no way of knowing these are actually ads, and can't block them.

But these places never do this because they want to outsource the advertising to someone else, and the advertisers want to not just show ads, but also track how many times the ad was served, who it was served to, how long it was viewed, and lots of other information that isn't necessary for advertising (and was never a factor back when ads were simply printed on newspaper or shown on TV). In short, the advertisers insist on spying on people now. This should not be tolerated or excused, ever.


Ads ? What Ads...

I forgot that I use Firefox for Android with uBlock Origin. I don't see any ads NEVER.


> I don't see any ads NEVER

So you see some ads occasionally? Then why are you asking "what ads"?


It always amazes me how many people on "hacker news" don't use an ad-blocker.

Well, some people hold very conformist views which is surprising too.

Wont you need to replace the batteries around Year 10 and then this becomes a wash?

Why would you need to replace the batteries? Do they fail outright at around 10 years, become unsafe, or do they just lose capacity?

Curious!

Even if they're at 50% capacity, they would still work, right? But if there are other considerations, especially safety ones, then that would definitely be a consideration. I'm not sure where to learn about this type of thing.


> Do they fail outright at around 10 years, become unsafe, or do they just lose capacity?

LiFePO4 generally degrades to 80% capacity after 10 years, that's it. Safety isn't an issue.


At which point if you're short on capacity (but who knows how your demand might shift over a decade) it's not like you need to replace the original batteries to get that 20% back, you will probably be able to just expand the pack to bring the capacity up.

Embarrassingly dumb question: if you’re one of the few users who don’t run a dark background terminal … how well do these TUI render (in a light background)?


Not a dumb question at all. I grew up using actual green screen terminals, and the advent of high-resolution colour monitors and applications with dark text on a white background felt like a blessing. I truly do not understand the regression to dark mode. It's eyestrain hell for me.

Unfortunately, I was unable to test in my light-background terminal, since the application crashes on startup.


If I'm working in a dark room, then light mode is eye strain hell. With dark mode, the minimum brightness I can achieve is about 100x lower than with light mode.


OLED monitors will bring green screen terminals back in style quite soon (with occasional orange and red highlights for that Hollywood haxx0r UX effect)


The worst is when you're in dark mode and suddenly open a website or PDF that's pure white. Instant flashbang.


I thank Apple every day for adding dark mode to the native PDF viewer for this exact reason.


My personal experience is mixed. Half the time, I get something usable, the other half I get something that prints light yellow on slightly-darker yellow or highlights an item with a dark blue background and dark green text. I'm sure there's something I can tweak in my terminal app to fix this, but it's easier to just avoid those apps.


Am I missing the obvious, but it seems like the author is messing with the aspect ratio.


No the author is highlighting the fact that the aspect ratio a video is stored in doesn’t always match the aspect ratio a video is displayed in. So simply calculating the aspect ratio based on the number of horizontal and vertical pixels gives you the storage ratio, but doesn’t always result in the correct display ratio.


Yes I think they are conflating square pixels with square pixel aspect ratios.

If a video file only stores a singular color value for each pixel, why does it care what shape the pixel is in when it's displayed? It would be filled in with the single color value regardless.


Because if that pixel takes up 2 vertical pixels when displayed in your web browser... That takes up more space and causes layout shift.

I thought i understood the article just fine but these comments are confusing.


So who's the arbiter to determine if the outcome was achieved?

And how do you programmatically measure it?


The obvious solution is just to throw more LLM's at it to verify the output of the other LLM and that it is doing its job...

\s (mostly because you know this will be the "Solution" that many will just run with despite the very real issue of how "persuadable" these systems are)...

The real answer is that even that will fail and there will have to be a feedback loop with a human that will likely in many cases lead to more churn trying to fix the work the AI did vs if the human just did it in the first place.

Instead of focusing on the places that using an AI tool can truly cut down on time spent like searching for something (which can still fail but at least the risk when a failure is far lower vs producing output).


Hi alberth,

I'd assume an outcome is a negotiated agreement between buyer and Agent provider.

Think of all the n8n workflows. If we take a simple example of Expense receipt processing workflows, or a lead sourcing workflow, I'd think the outcomes can be counted pretty well. In these cases, successfully entered receipts into ERP or number of Entries captured in salesforce.

I am sure there are cases where outcomes are fuzzy, for instances employer-employee agreement.

But in some cases, for instance, my accounting agent would only get paid if he successfully uploads my tax returns.

Surely not applicable in all cases. But, in cases Where a human is measured on outcomes, the same should be applicable for agents too, I guess


> But in some cases, for instance, my accounting agent would only get paid if he successfully uploads my tax returns.

I think you'd want it to correctly compute your taxes. Especially if you get a letter a year or two after the fact saying you owe the government money


Indeed. The whole AI game is predicated on the fact that they can deliver work equivalent to humans in some cases. If that is never going to be the case, then this whole agentic stuff goes belly-up.

The alternative scenario is they get better and do some work really well. That is an interesting territory to focus on.


This is the problem with this, in simple cases like “you add N employees” then you can vaguely approximate it, like they do in the article.

But for anything that’s not this trivial example, the person who knows the value most accurately is … the customer! Who is also the person who is paying the bill, so there’s strong financial incentive for them not to reveal this info to you.

I don’t think this will work …


I often go back to customer support voice AI agent example. Let's say, The bot can resolve tickets successfully at a certain rate . This is capturable easily. Why is this difficult? What cases am I missing?


That's litterlly the job of a founder. You talk to cusomters and learn from them.


Would this be analogous to NVMe?

Meaning ... SSDs initially reused IDE/SATA interfaces, which had inherent bottlenecks because those standards were designed for spinning disks.

To fully realize SSD performance, a new transport had to be built from the ground up, one that eliminated those legacy assumptions, constraints and complexities.


...and introduced new ones.


Dumb question: who’s Firefox target user?

Chrome is able to capture the mass consumer market, due to Google’s dark pattern to nag you to install Chrome anytime you’re on a Google property.

Edge target enterprise Fortune 500 user, who is required to use Microsoft/Office 365 at work (and its deep security permission ties to SharePoint).

Safari has Mac/iOS audience via being the default on those platform (and deep platform integration).

Brave (based on Chromium), and LibreWolf (based on Firefox) has even carved out those user who value privacy.

---

What’s Firefox target user?

Long ago, Firefox was the better IE, and it had great plugins for web developers. But that was before Chrome existed and Google capturing the mass market. And the developers needed to follow its users.

So what target user is left for a Firefox?

Note: not trolling. I loved Firefox. I just don’t genuine understand who it’s for anymore.


> Dumb question: who’s Firefox target user?

These days, it seems to be people who:

* Don't want to be using a browser owned by an ethically dubious corporation

* Want a fully functional ad blocker

* Prefer vertical tabs


> Want a fully functional ad blocker

My main reason but also

* want to ensure competition because I'm sure that once it's chromium all the way, we're gonna have a bad time.


Mind you, you can get all that and more in a browser like vivaldi. And that market is.. small. Vivaldi doesn't have to develop a browser engine


The problem is the list keeps shrinking since now Mozilla Corp is an ethically dubious corporation.


> Want a fully functional ad blocker

Is this even the case? UBO has ~10 million users going by the extension store, Firefox has over 150 million users.

So less than 10% of Firefox installs also have UBO.


* But don't really care about privacy that much


Brave already has an adblocker built into the browser itself and supports vertical tabs.


Ostensibly nerds. Linux users and maybe Mac users. Technical people who understand more about the software industry than all Mozilla Corp management since Brendan.

It's difficult to monetize us when the product is a zero dollar intangible, especially when trust has been eroded such that we've all fled to Librewolf like you said.

It's difficult to monetize normies when they don't use the software due to years of continuous mismanagement.

I think giving Mozilla a new CEO is like assigning a new captain to the Titanic. I will be surprised if this company still exists by 2030.


Right and to your point, there's not a whole lot of precedent for browsers successfully funding themselves when the browser itself is the primary product.

Opera was the lightweight high performance extension rich, diversely funded, portable, adapted to niche hardware, early to mobile browser practically built from the dreams of niche users who want customization and privacy. They're a perfect natural experiment for what it looks like to get most, if not all decisions right in terms of both of features users want, as well as creative attempts to diversify revenue. But unfortunately, by the same token also the perfect refutation of the fantasy that making the right decisions means you have a path to revenue. If that was how it worked, Opera would be a trillion dollar company right now.

But it didn't work because the economics of web browsers basically doesn't exist. You have to be a trillion dollar company already, and dominate distribution of a given platform and force preload your browser.

Browsers are practically full scale operating systems these days with tens of millions of lines of code, distribued for free. Donations don't work, paying for the browser doesn't work. If it did, Opera (the og Opera, not the new ownership they got sold to) would still be here.


> Browsers are practically full scale operating systems these days with tens of millions of lines of code, distributed for free.

Well there's your problem! Google owns the server, the client, and the standards body, so ever-increasing complexity is inevitable if you play by their rules. Tens of thousands of lines of code could render the useful parts of the web.


Can you say more? I do think Google has effectively pushed embrace-extend-extinguish, changing the rules so that it's a game they can win. And I do think part of the point of web standards protocols is to limit complexity. So I agree the rules as they exist now favor Google. I think the "real" solution was for the standards bodies to stay in control but seems like that horse left the barn.


Yes, I would literally pay a nominal fee for Firefox if I were confident in the org's direction. As things stand though, the trust is gone as you said.


Mozilla is (or at least started as) a nonprofit. Even corporation is only there to fulfill the nonprofit goals. They shouldn't even be thinking about monetization they should be thinking about getting donations and securing grants.


> What’s Firefox target user?

It seems as if you ask Mozilla, the answer would be "Not current Firefox users."

I really don't know the answer to this question, and I don't know if Mozilla has defined it internally, which probably leads to a lot of the problems that the browser is facing. Is it the privacy focused individual? They seem to be working very hard against that. Is it the ad-sensitive user? Maybe, but they're not doing a lot to win that crowd over.

It kind of feels like Firefox is not targeted at anyone in particular. But long gone are the days when you can just be an alternative browser.

Maybe the target user is someone who wants to use Firefox, regardless of what that means.


I use Firefox because I don't want to use a browser provided by an advertising company e.g. Chrome.


Yet ... with firefox that is exactly what you are using. Except there's a proxy in the middle (Mozilla).


It isn't even indirect anymore since Mozilla bought an advertising company.


I'm raising my hands, you got me.


Just one that is entirely funded by an advertising company?


There are three browsers: FF, Chrome, Safari. I'm not on Apple so FF is the least worst option.


> Dumb question: who’s Firefox target user?

Partly me. It's the only browser where I can disable AV1 support to work around broken HW acceleration on Steam Deck.

Also tab hoarders. (I migrated to Chrome 3 years ago to try and get rid of my tab hoarding)


I've been using Firefox for a long time, longer than it's had that name, and it used to be excellent for my tab hoarding habits. Specifically, it could handle a large number of tabs, and every couple of months it would crash and lose all of them. I would have to start over from scratch, with an amazing sense of catharsis and freedom, and I never had to make the decision on my own that I would never be able to make.

Now, it's no better than the others. I'm at 1919 tabs right now, and it hasn't lost any for many years. It's rock solid, it's good at unloading the tabs so I don't even need to rely on non-tab-losing crash/restarts to speed things up, and it doesn't even burn enough memory on them to force me to reconsider my ways.

This is a perfect example of how Mozilla's mismanagement has driven Firefox into the ground. Bring back involuntary tab bankruptcy and spacebar heating!


Me! I want the best thing that's not Google or Chromium. Right now that's Firefox. Maybe someday it will be Ladybird.


> I just don’t genuine understand who it’s for anymore.

It still gets bundled a TON on Linux. So if you use Linux a lot, Firefox gets into your muscle memory.

But honestly, that bundling is likely just momentum from the 2010s. Better tech exists now.


It seems to me Android users who want to block ads are a strong target market. Desktop Chrome has extensions and despite the nerf, it has adblockers that mostly work; Android Chrome doesn't have extensions.

A built in adblocker would probably help Firefox attract those users, but might destroy their Google revenue stream.


I think the problem with that is that Firefox Android with uBO still feels like it has worse First Contentful Paint than Chrome Android. Even on a high-end phone the difference can feel ridiculous; sites render after 1-2s on Chrome but sometimes I can count up to 5 with FF.

The benefits of having uBO might matter more to you and me, but let's not forget that faster rendering was arguably the main reason Chrome Desktop got popular 20 years ago, which caused Firefox to rewrite its engine 2 (3?) times since then to catch up. 20 years later this company still hasn't learned with Android.


Maybe I'm less sensitive to that, but I hadn't really noticed on a phone that wasn't high-end in 2020 and certainly isn't now. I'll have to pay attention to sites being slow and compare a Chromium-based browser next time I notice one.

I switched from Firefox desktop to Chrome when Chrome was new because it was multi-process and one janky page couldn't hang or crash the whole browser. I vaguely remember the renderer being a little faster, but multi-process was transformative. Firefox took years to catch up with that.

I'm very sensitive to ads though. If a browser doesn't have a decent adblocker, I'm not using it. Perhaps surprisingly, the Chromium browser with good extension support on Android is Edge.


Somehow its target user group includes my father, who is 90 years old. As far as I can recall, we got him using Firefox years ago and he became a committed user.

I wish more browsers would target seniors. Accessibility and usability is universally a nightmare.


Non-laptop users.


It's an island of trust in an ocean of predatory capitalism.


It was that once.


Firefox users are people who would use LibreWolf, but installed it, tried it, saw it doesn't have dark mode, and figured that Firefox was good enough after all.


If you like variable fonts, no font is better at giving fine tune control than Roboto Flex (also by Google).

Has 12-axis of variables (whereas most only have 1 or 2)

https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Roboto+Flex/tester


> Power generation turbines are designed to work at ambient sea level conditions. They don't rely on ambient air being especially cold for cooling, they can keep cool thanks to the large mass flow rate

What could be contributing to this is recently Vertasium did a whole video on how jet engines operate at temperatures above their components melting point.

And how the cold air at altitude is what keeps it from melting.

https://youtu.be/QtxVdC7pBQM


Who is Amp’s competition?

Because if I understand them correctly, aren’t they a wrapper around all the major LLMs (focused specially on developer use cases?


Guidelines | FAQ | Lists | API | Security | Legal | Apply to YC | Contact

Search: