I wonder if Rogan propagates vaccine misinformation, who prevents government healthcare officials to come to the show and tell his multimillion audience what exactly is wrong?
I suppose this is rhetorical, but to answer anyway - joe rogan prevents that. He’s in charge of who he has on as guests.
But even if he did, I suspect his ideology is such that scientific knowledge is de-valued over anti-establishment takes, and so nobody would listen to that healthcare expert. Because it’s not like his listeners haven’t heard that vaccines are effective - they just believe him as a source more than they believe any expert
He has Sanjay Gupta on, a well known doctor that supports vaccination. Even Gupta couldn’t make a firm argument that everyone must get vaxxed, even with the fact checking in real time
Did you just move the goalpost? All you need to make a firm argument for is that “getting vaxxed is safe, protects you, and protects others” not “everyone must get vaxxed” - nobody can make that argument - there are too many people unable to get the vaccine for valid medical reasons.
I wonder when this BS will end? At some point in my life I graduated from a military boot camp. At the end of camp all overweight people were lean, slim and muscular. No special diet were given to overweight people to achieve that result.
If you work with kids in an outdoor camp setting - same basic results.
Take away the phones, the ipads, the TVs, the computers, add a (very) healthy diet, literally all day every day outside from morning to night with some small breaks.
No huge weightloss (camp might be a month and half or so) but generally endurance, fitness, etc, kids are remarkable(!) - seriously, their bodies just problem solve it seems overnight for the change (takes about 1 week to start noticing difference).
The idea that high fat / sugar / salt / mental health issues from being plunked in front of screens all day doesn't play a role in all this seems weird. At least with kids, mental health is a big deal actually in lots of behaviors (procrastination / eating etc) and being outside all day does seem to help some kids.
Yep. You have to address the problems that prevent people from "simply eating less and/or being more active" because just telling them that generally doesn't work.
This is evidence that CICO does work, isn't it? Everyone ate the same food and did the same exercising, so they all ended up with the same kind of body. If there were any truth to woo like "setpoints", then the overweight people wouldn't have lost weight by doing what maintained the weight of healthy weight people.
If it was the actual military, there will have been both entry requirements and a fair amount of self-selection to ensure that the people coming in are much more homogeneous to start with than the general population.
The obesity rates of US veterans approaches that of the general population, which is a concern given that the military selection process precludes many people who are likely to become obese in the longer term.
The point of the article is that obesity is not a simple model and that the simplistic idea that kJ in vs kJ out is the same for everyone is flawed. The balance and solutions vary across the affected cohorts.
Treating obesity as a simple issue with simple answers, and claiming that any introduce nuance to the discussion as 'BS', does not really provide any insight or assistance to folk who are struggling with this condition.
I agree with you. I am not young but also not obese. However I did try to lose those last 6-7 kilos for some time. I went through phases where I was trying various things ranging from normal healthy eating to weird stuff (yeah, I now consider them as such) such as low carb, or fasting (note: this can be good for concentration, but not for weight loss) or whatever. I was also going to the gym and doing various random, but tiring things. The result is that I maintained a more or less stable weight (aside from some temporary fluctuations), and never permanently lost those extra kilos. Then I started to take sessions with some kinesiologist. Not sure exactly why, but without ever thinking what I eat (still I eat healthy, but there is pizza, alcohol etc), I gained muscle and lost weight. I welcome this change with humility, but I can't claim that I understand it. The pattern that I see is that there are plenty of exercises that seem easy, with low repetitions, but they seem to challenge the muscles in complicated ways using simple tools (mostly elastic bands and equilibrium tables). It is way more thorough than the crap I was doing alone at the gym and it does seem to affect my appetite. So yeah... maybe good quality exercise is the key, net necessarily a military camp.
No but they were in military boot camp. They didn't get a special diet but they did get a very special environment. Which actually stresses the point of the article, the question of obesity at the macro level isn't one of "calories in/out" or "diet" but environmental and behavioural.
I had the exact same experience in bootcamp(Army), and it makes me jaded and uninterested in the monthly "groundbreaking" exercise products or diet programs. Front lean and rest position doesn't cost you anything - just sayin...
come back in 20 years . why do some people seemingly gain much more weight easily then others, you think a 400+ lb man has the same genes for regulating metabolism and other factors as a 150 lb man?
