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Farewell, Homebrew. It's been a good run.

- 2019 Intel iMac user.


Sorry we couldn’t support this for longer :(

From the release notes:

> The Intel support decision reflects the limits of a volunteer-run project: Apple have dropped Intel x86_64 support from macOS 27 Golden Gate and GitHub Actions will retire Intel macOS runners in autumn 2027. If Apple and Microsoft’s GitHub, two of the world’s largest technology companies, cannot continue supporting macOS Intel x86_64, sadly neither can Homebrew. MacPorts still supports macOS Intel x86_64 and is likely to provide better results on this platform.


My personal opinion, but I'd rather see wider macOS support than Linux support, if it's a sheer matter of where time is allocated.

Linux already has world class package managers.


Linux Homebrew users would disagree.

Supporting macOS Intel has been significantly harder, slower and more expensive for us the last few years than adding ARM Linux support. If it was easy and free we’d have kept it for longer (until Apple and GitHub killed theirs at least which is coming in less than a year).


Homebrew is incredibly useful for immutable Linux distributions.

That said, after trying Bazzite I now prefer CachyOS and Arch as a whole.

I can see the appeal of using Homebrew and Flatpak to keep OS updates a little more separate from app updates, although I don't really see a specific need for it for myself.


How come that MacPorts supports macOS versions all the way back to 10.5 Leopard in the latest version?


Breadth of support and retention of historical support are also priorities that differ between other software distributions, especially free operating systems.

See Debian vs. Ubuntu, or NetBSD vs. DragonflyBSD.

Some software distributions emphasize package freshness and coverage, like Homebrew does, which multiplies the support burden involved for each architecture or platform supported.

Others have a more prominent focus on backwards compatibility or exotic architectures, but have a smaller or slower-moving package set.


That's an excellent question for the maintainers of the MacPorts project! It can supplement the very clear and polite answer you've already received from a maintainer of Homebrew.


The polite Homebrew project that used to market themselves with "MacPorts driving you to drink?" on their website.


Different philosophy of dependency management.


They've never actively disallowed it, and volunteers have been happy to maintain it.


So much of GNU et al is already in Homebrew that I wonder how close you are to being able to support Intel Macs using the Linux/amd64 branch (or backend or whatever you call it) of Homebrew or something close to it, possibly after installing a few base libraries and utilities from MacPorts.

ETA: I've got Homebrew 7 building packages from source on an Intel Mac running Monterey; nothing yet required from MacPorts and a pretty minimal patch to the installer. I'd probably want to add legacy-support from MacPorts and update the macOS build environment to add it as an extra library on Intel Macs if I were to continue.

That being said, I'm sure y'all talked about continuing to support Intel Macs as source-based and ultimately decided against it, so it's unlikely that this will be interesting to the team. But let me know if I'm wrong and I'll open a couple PRs for further discussion.


> GitHub Actions will retire Intel macOS runners in autumn 2027

But why drop before that?


Thank you for all of your hard work, I’ve been very happily using Homebrew on OS X / macOS since 2010.

No need to be sorry, the situation is understandable.


very disappointed about this


I think they would be able to support older architectures under a paid contract if absolutely needed, for the right price.

Other than that, I'm grateful for the free software.


We've all gone through it :-( Happy users of the (really good) software until our hardware gets "too old" and the inevitable rug pull.


You have no idea what rug pull means, do you?


Uncompensated volunteers dropping support for a 7 year old device that is shortly going to be unsupported by the manufacturer isn't a rug pull.

Entitlement can be wild, volunteers are volunteers. Consumers of volunteer output are free to support their use cases themselves on their own time. Find an ARM Mac used (like an M1) and upgrade.


As I replied in another comment[1], it's their software, their choice. Homebrew devs are doing the volunteer work, so they get to decide the support period and when to pull the rug out. I'll still shake my fists about it, because it's personally my biggest problem with the entire software industry's attitude, not just open source.

1: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49687331


You're right, expecting other people to do your work for your for free is indeed a problem with the industry!


> Find an ARM Mac used (like an M1) and upgrade.

And throw away perfectly good hardware.


If it no longer is supported by software, it’s no longer perfectly good. Certainly, if you want to spend your time on supporting unsupported hardware based on personal belief, that’s a choice, and it’s your time. Compare to the cost of replacing the hardware. Time is not free, it is the ultimate non renewable resource. We are all slowly dying one day at a time, is that how you want to spend your time?

Recycle old gear when the math no longer maths and move on.


>We are all slowly dying one day at a time, is that how you want to spend your time?

Mindless consumption isn't going to extend your life.


Tinkering and building for fun brings joy, joy is the point of life. Tinker mindfully. “Tinker and build what matters, to you.”


In general I agree, but recycling old power hungry gear may be better for the environment in the long term.


So discard a working and perfectly good Macbook to be replaced by a new one manufactured by the World’s #1 CO2 emitter and transported probably halfway around the world in a container ship burning dirty bunker fuel.


Per unit costs are pretty low, and old Intel gear particularly energy guzzling.


That hardly happens on desktop/laptop Linux. Seems like a proprietary OS problem tbh.


You're definitely right about that. I'll admit it. If you're not the kind of person who likes to throw all your electronics out every few years to spend $thousands on new ones then the Apple ecosystem is not for you.


It's a weird situation in that the standards for mobile devices like cell phones and tablets are on the floor compared to those for PCs, so Apple's same 6-year cutoff feels respectable for smartphones but miserly for laptops.


Any modern Linux distro works great on Intel Macs. Been daily driving with Debian 13 initially and now NixOS on my MBP2015, have not used the MacOS Sequoia partition for months!


Same boat: 2018 Intel Mac mini, stuck on macOS 10.15.

When I eventually upgrade my hardware, I’ll happily use Homebrew again. In the meantime, MacPorts!


> Farewell, Homebrew. It's been a good run. - 2019 Intel iMac user.

welcome. - 2015 intel macbook user


MacPorts is still there for us.


Check out MacPorts. They have installers going all the way back to Leopard.


I'm probably the millionth person to parrot this to you but my goodness you are a hero if you can tolerate the Intel Mac experience in 2026.

I thought my Intel Mac from that era was incredibly weird. Little firmware-ish things were so glitchy and sluggish. At some point the wake from sleep/lid open just took forever in ways that didn't happen on older Intel Mac models (or maybe I was going crazy). I just had this strange feeling that Apple was knowingly half-hearting their Intel drivers and products as a whole as they were putting more energy into developing Apple Silicon.

Dude, you owe it to yourself to just grab a used M2 MacBook Air or something along those lines. Treat yourself. You'll be kicking yourself for not doing so sooner. (Don't get a MacBook Neo, too many compromises including poor battery life, a used Air is much better, and if you use more than one external monitor use caution on what model/CPU you choose).

Sure, a laptop should last longer than 7 years, but this is one of those "Apple yeets out a new architecture" exceptions like the PowerPC to Intel transition. Better to accept it and move on. 7 years is still a solid run. You've only got ~2 more years left until you start losing security updates anyway.

The other machine I highly recommend is Linux/Framework 13 Pro with the Intel Core Ultra Series 3, although that's a whole different price class, and obviously not everyone can make that move in terms of software compatibility.


> used M2 MacBook Air

And what if you are a developer and need to replace a well specced Mac and don’t have serious budget, especially considering recent memory and storage price increases?

Rather than a coffee table status symbol or a fashion accessory for pretending to write a novel in the coffee shop?


If the old Intel Mac still works, what should one do? Dump it into a landfill?


I sell all my previous devices on second hand markets like eBay. That question becomes "not my problem:" whoever else is buying it has some kind of use case even though I am done with the system and it no longer fits my use case anymore.

I think that, for the parent commenter to my original comment, this Intel Mac no longer fits their use case. They can fight it and suffer or get the right tool for the job. I'm sure the person who buys it from them won't care that the current version of Homebrew doesn't work on it.

Intel Macs run Linux very well, I might add.

It should also be noted that, yes, most electronics eventually get scrapped for parts and raw materials. It doesn't really take all that long for important components to fail to a point where a computer is not really worth dealing with anymore. Yes, they can be repaired in many cases, but that's only generally worth it to a small group of vintage enthusiasts (and I say this as someone who very much enjoys vintage computing myself).


Electronics recycling exists, plus a few dollars for the aluminum case.


Anyone using Google Search can edit a business's phone number. Weird, but true.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Three+Rings+CIC&hl=en#irp=ph


Anyone with a Google Account who uses Google Maps can submit edit suggestions, but they are all reviewed before publication. You can inform them if the business doesn't exist, has a different address, new website, existing website doesn't work, new business hours; all sorts of things. Not limited to businesses: includes bus stops and train stations, historic landmarks, basically anything where you can drop a pin and see a database entry.

This is probably linked to the process for Search. It's called "crowdsourcing".

https://support.google.com/business/answer/3038311

The article mentions having control of the Google Business Profile. It was sometimes called "Google My Business". You can register and verify that you're the owner, and then you'll have tools to reply to reviews and manage your own Maps entry, etc.

https://business.google.com/us/business-profile/


I do this quite a lot, most get accepted, some don't. It typically takes a few days to get reviewed and published.


OP actually shared an actual existing user’s email address to prove the concept. In the reuploaded video, the email address is blurred.


I figured out how to solve this captcha with a bot! :) The trick is to strafe left immediately after spawning and continuously press the spacebar. Then, just wait for the enemies to move in front of you and get eliminated. :)


what are the other options?


Stock illustration sites. Renders of stock 3d models. Stolen without credit. AI generated.


None of those are options for this thing. They are all real DIY projects that some people have made. Some of these especially 3d printed ones have 3d models made by authors of each project. Still takes time to make clean and consistent illustrations out of them, probably less bad once you do it hundred times in a row and have a good workwflow. But for others especially ones made of cloth there is no choice other than drawing them by hand. I guess you could speedup the process by tracing over a photo. As for stolen without credit aspect, at the bottom of each page there is a projects name, author and website where it was posted, it also functions as link. One thing that could be better is making links accessible in printed version either as text or QR code of them, currently you can only access them only in digital version.


looking at them again, they're definitely all 3d renders with a consistent toon/outline material

beautiful.



"tool"


Well, depending on your definition of "tool" I'd say its still a proper answer. Unless you're calling me a tool, which would just be funny :)


Sometimes you need a hammer. Sometimes you just need a large rock.


why do you think it is a bad idea?


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