Don't you mean it is our government and economic structure that made housing the shitty investment in the first place? Don't blame individual rational actors.
I suppose it depends on what you consider the average person - it's not available for free, but it is available as part of the $20/month ChatGPT Plus. I suspect $20/month is very affordable for most HN users.
ChatGPT Plus is very bad value vs ChatGPT API (particularly now that 3rd party chat clients exist)... I've spent $20 on ChatGPT Plus in the same month where I've spent < $1 on the API and used it significantly more via my github bot.
My subscription is due for renewal this week and I was going to cancel it, but for me it's worth it short-term for GPT-4 access. The increased context size and improvements in reasoning & general output quality are significant for my use cases.
GPT-4 access in ChatGPT Plus is quite limited (was originally 100 every few hours, currently 25 and going lower since they're struggling to keep up with demand) but that's still enough to get useful results out of it currently, especially if you have built up some intuition on how to prompt using 3.5.
Maybe, but they were looking for a phone that'll last a long time, and I hope my answer makes them reconsider. The Android OS-updates situation is seriously dire, and it seems very difficult for Google to fix.
but.. their old phone is still operating fine, it isn't even affected by the Samsung modem exploit, and best-of-all the pixel 2 is well supported by many third-party Android roms.
Parent literally has one of the best supported older phones available for third party OS installation (which, incidentally, is what parent was asking about..)
so, in the interest of e-waste/recycling/keeping old things going I hope they reconsider the value of their already-owned hardware and how it may still continue to serve them.
fwiw, third-party android roms are only part of the story. And, in an article about the baseband being compromised, I would hope people would take that into consideration.
>so, in the interest of e-waste/recycling/keeping old things going I hope they reconsider the value of their already-owned hardware and how it may still continue to serve them.
In the interest of security, both theirs and the people they communicate with, I hope they consider upgrading their device to something that has a very long lifespan of active security updates.
Thanks. I don't mind that you didn't address my question directly, because this is all relevant food for thought.
Every year I'm more disappointed by Google on pretty much every front. They really do seem to have jumped the shark.
If I do decide to upgrade...
Unfortunately I can't stand iOS. No kidding, I'd rather have a Nokia 5110. I've tried repeatedly, thinking "I'm just not used to it", but there's too much about the design philosophy that I find actively obnoxious. Strangely, I don't have this problem with macOS.
Maybe I can find another Android vendor with a better support policy, or if none of them are any good then just suck it up and buy the very newest of whatever to at least push the planned death of my device back a couple more years.
I'm getting a bit sick of this treadmill. I don't buy the defence some people offer that it's too much work to support the older devices. Having a security-only backports release series for old devices would be _trivial_ compared to the enormous piles of money Google sets on fire for shits and giggles on a daily basis. It's planned obsolescence, plain and simple.
> Unfortunately I can't stand iOS. No kidding, I'd rather have a Nokia 5110. I've tried repeatedly, thinking "I'm just not used to it", but there's too much about the design philosophy that I find actively obnoxious. Strangely, I don't have this problem with macOS.
That's how i feel with iOS and macOS, the whole design philosophy and UX feel alien to me, and makes me hate every actual issue I encounter even more.
> I'm getting a bit sick of this treadmill. I don't buy the defence some people offer that it's too much work to support the older devices. Having a security-only backports release series for old devices would be _trivial_ compared to the enormous piles of money Google sets on fire for shits and giggles on a daily basis. It's planned obsolescence, plain and simple.
From what I've understood, it's mostly the hardware components' vendors' fault - Qualcomm and co that provide the SoC and modem. It's their firmware which isn't kept up to date by the manufacturer (because it isn't easy to do so), thus phone lifecycle is inherently limites. There have been massive recent advances in that area though, with on one hand more vendors (MediaTek, Samsung) that could maybe be forced to compete and thus have to differentiate from one another, but also big changes to Android and the way updates are done, to keep firmware/driver/kernel updates as simple as possible to develop and roll out. We can see the effects with multiple Android vendors (e.g. Google, Samsung) now supporting phones for much longer.
So hopefully soon things will improve.
