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'Coolest'? I guess this could also be said for drugs, but I don't see it as a benefit.

That's akin to being grateful for your local shop owner that they allowed you to sweep the floor for other customers.

Please don’t strawman me, I asked completely different question.

It’s not about being grateful or something, but that many people (devs) are too concerned about their code being stolen as if they’ve come up with something unique and the LLMs are some kind of database (which it isn’t).

At the end of the day we’re going to be using AI to write all the code, many of us already doing that. And if some GitHub copilot model would be better - we’re getting more quality code that is generally available for next pretraining runs (for your and other models). Some would even switch to copilot if it’s good.

What do you think about it?


People would have a different response if they did not, in my view accurately, perceive that wool is being pulled over their eyes.

If something is mine by right, no matter how little or lot worth it has noone shoule be allowed to force/trick me to donate it. It should just be my choice.

Most of the new culture and website contents is under full copyright. How much of an obstacle was that to these companies?

They've had ample access to the final output - our code, but they still hope with enough data on HOW we work they can close the agentic gap and finally get those stinky, lazy humans that demand salary out of the loop.

Quite simply, that's just a matter of the corporate internal policy and its (lack of) enforcement. This problem is just a subset of the wider IP breach with some people happily feeding their work documents into the free tier of ChatGPT.

> Its bottom floor for LLMs.

What? That's just demonstrably false. The market doesn't consist of 5 providers.


You know about LMarena? I just looked it up, Mistral is number 59 on the list.

Free Chinese models are better than it.


That's one of the possible benchmarks, not the only one. Being 59th there, on a list enriched with every variation of Model_Name X.Y (March 2025 Preview) Pro-Thinking, translates to being in the top 10 providers worldwide which is a very interesting mark of failure considering that coincidentally they're also number 1 from their economic area. If you don't know why the last part is important, go read some news.

Did you try to register VAT-free by any chance? My first guess would be that you could have set the tax region wrong.


> They know everyone in the world will never pause when they see their logo on the buttons.

As in, that they won't run away when they see them or that they will all happily use them? If you mean the latter, then it's just false. Also, why do you assume that such product would need to be used worldwide all of a sudden? Having something for the local market would be sufficient to call it a success in this instance. There's an ICC judge who could tell you a thing or two about having a whole digital life on the hook of services from one country, so reducing this dependency is a clear benefit.


> Also, why do you assume that such product would need to be used worldwide all of a sudden

Because I'm talking about not running on any American services. Which Americans can do and do all the time. I don't see how we can reach a point where we can one day not include google/apple sign in and not lose a massive number of potential users. Sure it's possible that one day we'll see a "Sign in with EU login" but below it they're always be sign in with google/apple, for a very long time.


That post mostly concerned infrastructure, you won't likely run the same managed DB with 2 different providers, for example, but you can well offer sign-in with EU/non-EU options, and as long as the first one is viable, I'd say that would already be a win in terms of OP's goals.


Sign-on with the external identity provider doesn't help if data related to your account like the billing information, your government ID info etc. are released in the breach, that's the sore point.


The baristas example can only make me think that with the growing wealth disparity and no obvious exit path for white collars we might see a big return of servant-like jobs for below 1%. Who wouldn't want to wake up and daily assist life of some remaining upper-middle class Anthropic's employee?


What growing wealth disparity?

Btw, globally equality hasn't looked better in probably more than a century by now. Especially in terms of real consumption.


Sorry, I don't see your point. While lifting up the masses out of extreme poverty globally is obviously good, it doesn't transfer to your situation unless you happen to live in one of these upstart countries. The society you live in is not global, even if we share more of popculture and technology now.


I'm living in a very upstart country.


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