At least in the UK, they could and did. My rate was doubled from 2p per minute to 4p per minute, to "harmonize" with the roaming legislation. My domestic rate increased to 15p per minute.

Other friends who are on pay-as-you-go report similar changes.

I pretty much agree with this position, although I find the "fill ... together" and "bring ... together" metaphors silly.

For example, if you have two jars containing 50 plutionium coins each, putting all of them in the same jar will have some unforeseen consequences. However, this does not change the fact that there are 100 coins altogether.

It fails because you apply the model to a situation where it isn't applicable. This isn't very different than applying Newtonian physics with objects moving near the speed of light.

By the way, numbers aren't defined as jars of coins. Numbers are a device to make predictions, and you can apply that device to make predictions about jars of coins.

I think you find it silly because you know too much about numbers and have forgotten the early years when you learned about numbers. When you teach a little kid numbers you don't start with Peano's axioms, you start with jars of coins and then you build an abstract model and you convince the kid that the abstract model makes accurate predictions with a series of (thought) experiments.

Let's not forget Jon Sterling, linguist, software engineer, amateur mathematician (okay at it), the organizer of the [PrlConf](http://www.jonprl.org/prlconf.html) subconference (note the unsubtle red star), well-known communist and [murder advocate](https://twitter.com/jonsterling/status/707424802496090113).

It seems like there's a fine line between having a toddler and having a hostage from the same species. You go to somebody's house, they're like, "Close the door. He'll get out. CLOSE THE DOOR! HE'LL GET OUT!" Okay. What kind of relationship do you have with this kid, exactly?

Ha. Same problem? Communication issues?

No.

Not to say that one is in February, the other in January.

They're both in February. Months represented by integers start at 0.

    > new Date(2016,1,11)
    Thu Feb 11 2016 00:00:00 GMT-0800 (PST)
    > new Date('2016-02-11')
    Wed Feb 10 2016 16:00:00 GMT-0800 (PST)

I make the same mistake constantly even though I learned this years ago.

People who think that high-level reasoning is easy compared to sensorimotor skills have successfully implemented neither and lack both.

-- Benjamin Franklin

Neural networks can be used to balance robots. They can't be used to generate Agda proofs of non-trivial theorems, or C programs that do something useful, etc.

Thank you I was trying to remember who said that quote ;-) ...

But seriously I'm not sure that just because checkers and various logical puzzles lend themselves to simple algorithms equates to "high-level reasoning requires very little computation"

I mean unless I've managed to miss all the AI bots sitting n the web asking me to talk. I think this might be a paradox that only existed until people thought more carefully about high level reasoning.

> balance robots

Making a robot that doesn't fall down is a really low standard.