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I hope so, that would be a step in the right direction!

Has anyone in America tried out https://github.com/defaultnamehere/tinder-detective to see if the API still works in the US without having to opt in?


Nope, you have to opt-out of Tinder Social to make it NOT happen to you.


Looks opt-in to me.


Ah, I was talking about in Australia. Turns out Tinder Social launched in the US today. What a coincidence!


'gender’: 1, // 1 is female, 0 is male. C’mon Tinder that’s not how gender works

C'mon Tinder.


It's a float value.


The funny part is that you're getting downvoted when it's actually defined as a float.

Like, you weren't kidding. They honestly made it a float. What.


"Gender fluid"


Facebook supports a third gender


But that could be represented with an int, right? Why float?


Needs to be complex, apparently.


Only one axis? How discriminatory. :P


Please don't Reddit-ify HackerNews.


I feel the same way. As time has gone on, it's tending to be more and more reddit-y


"Infinite deminsional gender space"


Nah, it's a string.


Are there more than two genders now?


Yes, and I'm not sure why he's getting downvoted. This is a legitimate Facebook feature.

Gender can be either Male, Female, or Custom, and Facebook gives you the option to choose which gender pronouns you prefer. Thus, to see it represented as a boolean is unusual. I'm curious as to what the value of that field is when a user has chosen Facebook's custom gender display options.


'Custom' wouldn't work in Tinder. They should have at least a third option but considering they show matches based on a gender preference having dozens of gender options will make the app quite useless as you'll be spreading people who would be interested in each other but use different terms to describe their gender into a wide variety of groups.


I am sticking with the biological definition.


There are more than two options in conservative biology as well. [1]

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermaphrodite


The very first sentence of your link says "both male and female". In nature they have the ability to act as both male or female.


Are you claiming that it's equal to either only male, or only female? If not, then how exactly would you provide the information that an organism is both with a single required bit, where 0 is defined as female, and 1 as male?


The biological definition is not real. Binary genders are a trend, not a certainty in nature.


I was attracted to hard sciences because the subjectivity of things like psychology turned me off. Statements like yours make me concerned that liberal arts departments are going to try to make science fit their narrative. The roles of male and female is one of the most universally common behaviors across specifies. If I grew a vagina and had a baby it doesn't make me a different gender. It means I took on some of the attributes of a human female. At that point I wouldn't consider myself male or female. But I certainly wouldn't try to make up a 3rd gender for my unique situation.


That's a very positivist approach, and I hope the liberal arts continue to erode such binary based thinking in the sciences as I believe that philosophy makes better scientists. . And so what if you "made up" another gender? Gender is socially constructed and is not a real, concrete construct. I'm sorry that considering concepts and people as unable to be hyper taxonomized by artificial constraints is inconvenient to you and more valuable than treating the identities of others with respect.


There is a difference between binary based thinking and thinking about binary.


Very good point, but in nature a binary of sexes is not absolute. You are applying the artificial gender binary to sexes, which in nature are often messy and unclear. This can range from species that change sex organs as they mature, take on different reproductive roles dependent on situations, and even manifests in a statistically significant amount of humans born with both sets of reproductive organs. Assuming two sexes, then going on to conflate that with gender, demonstrates only an elementary understanding of reproductive biology.


But are there more than two biological genders? Or are we just talking about "my special identity" genders?


I think its more about the shape.


> Are there more than two genders now?

That question needs unpacked further:

(1) Are there more than two gender identities? Yes.

(2) Are there more than two socially ascribed genders? Yes, given that (1) has achieved a significant degree of acceptance, as has aligning ascribed gender with identity.

(3) Are there more than two grammatical genders? Depends on the language.

(4) Are there more than two arrangements of sex-related biological traits? Yes

(5) Are there more than two of any of the items in #1, #2, or #4 on which people might preferences that would be relevant in a dating app? Probably.


yes, as there always has been in the grammar of English and many other languages.


The commenter your responding to is most likely using "gender" to refer to the concept you would describe as "sex". That is, the biological characteristic of being male or female rather than a grammatical concept.


Sex isn't binary either.


In the vast majority of cases it is.


A trait either is binary or is not (being binary is, itself, binary.) A trait that the vast majority of the time takes on one of two values, but other times takes on other values, is not binary.


male,female,null


Even if that was the exact set of possible values, that's not binary (though I suppose if someone overexposed to SQL might mistake it for a being binary...)


No, I would definitely agree that male is negative and female is positive. Unless there's a race condition.


No worries, Tinder doesn't ask for your race.


It's all the same on the inside anyway.


My gender is 88


Depends how far you're Stockholm-Syndrome'd into using them =]


ಠ~ಠ


Nice TextFace™


nice work!


Uh oh they know


Do you have stairs in your house? (i.e. do you browse SomethingAwful, because your style of sarcastic humour is pretty similar, going by your writing & the animated frog on Swagify, and yes yes i know the rules of HN...)


Oh, no, I haven't really browsed SomethingAwful before, I just um I dunno make a lot of parody websites


I love this guy's humor. I remember when I was 17 I used to write a column for flipcode.com where I thought I was being pretty funny in appropriate amounts (http://www.flipcode.com/archives/Theory_Practice-Issue_06_Ev... for example) but I like his jokes more!

But hey, I was 17 and also it was me so... I'm biased.


I used to read those articles! Fond memories.


Dammit, I trusted that StackOverflow answer T_T


mfw banned


so this is why I always get disconnected from Messenger!


Good point!

I didn't think of that.

3 minutes does seem like the kind of time an engineer would code into their app.

So does that mean that the spiky periods are times when people are online the whole time?


>So does that mean that the spiky periods are times when people are online the whole time?

I'd be inclined to think so, but I don't work for Facebook, there may be an entirely different reason :)

Edit: or maybe, maaaybe, it's the point of time when people fall asleep over their mobile - they've stopped interacting with the app, it still sends a few keep-alive requests, and then logs itself out.


Could it be an unusual client, like a microsoft phone or something?


Hi, I wrote this blog post.

I have no idea what the Facebook apps (Messenger and the Facebook app) do in the background.

It's easy to test that, but I didn't because #yoloswag


You're a funny person.


Hi, I wrote this blog post.

Nope, you have to be their friend.

Well, you have to be their Facebook friend. What you do in real life is none of my business.


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