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Come on, all of this is fairly obvious. Let's say you take a Nokia brick and want to put one touch screen instead of a display and an input panel. What do you do? Something that looks exactly like that. The screen gets larger, the buttons go down and everything else stays the same (yeah, pre-iPhone dumb phones had nice icons in a grid too, remember?).

I mean, you're not going to put the speakers behind, or put fragile sharp corners, or put the buttons on the middle of the screen, just because Apple did something similar!

This is fairly obvious stuff when developing a smart phone out of a dumb phone. Dumb phones looked alike too, just like fridges and microwaves look alike, and that's because these things just make sense.


The other android handsets released around the same time didn't mimick the look of the iPhone. Take the HTC Desire for instance, it has the same cues you mention but looks very different.


Your point is proven wrong though by the fact that there were phones that looked like the iPhone before the iPhone.

Granted they were rubbish to actually use, but they looked good, just like the iPhone does.


The icons are on a 4x4 grid with 4 additional icons on a dock. There is a contrasting chrome bezel framing the glossy black front elevation of the device. On this elevation, the ear piece is positioned a few millimetres down from the top edge. At the bottom of the elevation their is a single large button that returns the user back to the principal screen. Which phone am I describing?


There is a contrasting chrome bezel framing the glossy black front elevation of the device.

LG Prada.

On this elevation, the ear piece is positioned a few millimetres down from the top edge.

LG Prada.

At the bottom of the elevation their is a single large button that returns the user back to the principal screen.

Ok you got me there, the LG Prada has two large buttons at the bottom of the elevation.


Are you really going to suggest that Apple took LG's Prada concept, which was announced on the 12 December 2006, and copied their version (which looks nothing like the Prada, which was a feature phone) which they announced 28 days later, bearing in mind that this was over the Christmas period? I've worked in manufacturing for a nearly 2 decades and I can assure you that it is actually impossible to do this. Neither the iPhone or the Galaxy S look anything like the LG Prada. Incidentally, the Samsung device was announced over 3 years after the iPhone was initially launched. I'd suggest that the point that you are trying to make is void of any merit whatsoever.


And I'd suggest that you're full of it if you claim the iPhone looks nothing like the LG Prada.

You attempted to describe the iPhone in 4 points. 2 of those points exactly described the LG Prada, the other 2 were very similar (a 2x3 grid instead of a 4x4 grid, 2 large buttons instead of 1 large button).


"You attempted to describe the iPhone in 4 points. 2 of those points exactly described the LG Prada"

I was describing the Galaxy S.


Well that's a pretty disingenuous thing to say, but hey, if the facts don't happen to support your arguments why not just start trolling?


Wow. Calling me a liar and a troll. This from someone that wrote:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5824190

and

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5826888

Both demonstrably false too.


At what point did I call you a liar?


Really? "Well that's a pretty disingenuous thing to say,"


You don't know what disingenuous means then.


Grow up will you. By saying that I was being disingenuous you were saying that I was being insincere about my reply. That is tantamount to calling me a liar without going so far. End of.


It's quite possible to be insincere without lying outright. If I'd meant to call you a liar then that is the word I would have used. I used the word disingenous because that is what I meant.

Please try not to be so hysterical.


You've got to be seen to have the last word. You were wrong. You called and continue to call me names, and you call me hysterical? Troll.


People wanted GIFs with sound, they got GIFs with sound.


The hackers are an efficient way to advertise a product for free. They are continually online and like to go from website to website and talk about stuff they just learned about.


Not to mention they will tell their friends and family constantly about the cool new thing they found. Also when people consider a new service who do they ask? Usually the hacker in the social group/family


The original statement is thus valid.


For small values of money.


I'm on Windows 7. It takes one click to postpone the update for four hours. And yet every four hours I get angry at Microsoft for a minute because of this.


Moneyocracy: the government rules by the the majority of the money, not of the people.


Seems like they want to cover ground by buying every single startup that is successful and remotely related to social networking. This is where the startup economy falls and monopolies go bad.


the maps and mapping and location accuracy is not all that good though. If Google Maps allowed some kind of plug-ins or layers that supported speed trap reporting Waze would be done.

Battery suck on Waze for frivolous reasons is massive. No one uses it for much else than cop tracking.... sometimes to send out directions to friends and groups, but that is also something that Google could do when that day comes around when they get their glass studded head out of their nether-regions.


Having location information is very valuable for properly targeted local advertising, and Waze is all about location information.


But getting location information on a facebook app user requires like two lines of code. I'd do that for a mere 1/4 billion!


Beautiful name. I hope you make awesome stuff out of it. Don't sit on it!


Windows, FF as well. It needs the divx plugin but then works flawlessly.

Granted, needing additional plugins is kind of bad. But I don't know an easy way to embed very short videos so it's as good a solution as any.


Isn't this supposed to be the problem that HTML5 video tag solves?


There isn't a country with enough police to protect everyone from physical harm caused by others at nearly all times (statistically speaking)? I doubt it.

And I doubt OP was speaking about those times when the country is entirely on fire or the police department has been nuked. Rather, I think the point is that the police will do anything they reasonably can do to help.


> There isn't a country with enough police to protect everyone from physical harm caused by others at nearly all times (statistically speaking)?

Note the last two words (in parentheses). That's the point being made: There aren't enough police to guarantee everyone protection.


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