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I'm not going to lie, I'm having a great time thinking at the endless discussions around unsafe languages and the relentless smugness of many practitioners claiming everything was fine as long as the responsible and the skilled (them) were in charge; and let's not forget the formulaic "with great power comes great responsibility" closers.

Well now, Great Responsibles, it's clear you too were out of your collective depth and were all paying for your smug hubris. Perhaps take a bite out of that humble pie you've obviously never tasted?


Nope. The TV stores all the data it harvests and scans WiFi in search of an open network. Whenever it finds one (and LG could make commercial agreements with Telco operating open WiFi’s to use them) it will connect and exfiltrate whatever it found.

It’s malicious.


This has been mentioned in so many comments and there isn't a shred of evidence about it

It seems to be misconstruing the fact that TVs will scan nearby networks for fingerprinting, but they don't _connect_ to those networks. It would be very very easy for someone to reproduce if they did


Agreed that the fact that the capability exists is bad.

That said, open networks have become a bit of a rarity; the only ones I can see are captive portal networks, and none of those from my home.


Wasn't there some issues with TVs in the past that filled up their drives with this data and would then crash or otherwise not work?

I have a recent 60ish inch LG OLED that's not been connected to the internet AFAICT for over a year. It's not connected to a LAN and it's not configured for any WiFi network. I have never connected it to the internet at all. It's working like a champ. No crashes or other issues. I treat it as a dumb monitor. HDMI in, optical out for audio to my stereo.


Yeah, until Trump (or whoever is president at the time) tells them to.

What will they do when the alternative is broken bones?


Why not try… master is now main after all

Yeah but in that case main is shorter, still understandable, and has the same autocomplete. It’s actually an improvement.

I once had a software manager who used "master/child". He had a previous stint as a teacher at an English private school.

It’s not just about credit. Mortgages require money and money comes from working a job.

R&D and its practitioners are already under mighty pressure to justify their existence, if credit is taken off the table it’s the end of it as a means to survive (let alone comfortably).


Society has already settled the question of whether it's ok to render someone's job obsolete.

To counterweight all the cynical takes about soldering RAM being a conspiracy to force device obsolescence, I can think of at least one other dynamic that could have resulted in today's scenario: smartphones.

Smartphones also need RAM and are especially subject to requirements of always being thinner, lighter, and have a durable battery, yet have spacious amounts of RAM.

Growing demand for smartphone RAM pushed for its optimization and production scaling and since all its requirements also match laptops, this convergence was inevitable.

Hopefully the growing demand for datacenter RAM density will make modular interface standards like LPCAMM2 more available (soldered has no place in datacenter).


No, vulns have been created by waves of leads clinging to their personas of “computer sorcerers”, gatekeeping, excluding anyone sounding the alarm or more humbly attempting to fix the mess. Whenever I hear “with great power comes great responsibility” (and the implication that the speaker is condescendingly containing the irresponsible) I cringe so hard that my teeth crack


Let he that has never created potential vulns cast the first stone.


it's the same "trusted compiler" argument, only at a different level. Though at least here you could -- if you wanted -- check the generated source.


interesting, I've been working on something similar myself... do you want to have a chat about it?


Sure! Send me an email, my name on gmail.


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