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> Let's do drinking water next!

Come to England, we've already done that! One of only two countries in the world to completely privatise its water, the other being Chile.


"By 2020 the price of water had risen by 40% in real terms since privatisation and almost a quarter of households had difficulty paying their water bills."

https://www.bmj.com/content/378/bmj.o2076

Just wow. Also, English water is 70% foreign owned apparently. That sounds unsettling. Also, didn't Liz Truss's cabinet not have a single English man on it recently? Out of 22 spots not one English male. Also isn't London property like 40% foreign owned?

Interesting times we live in.


> Also, didn't Liz Truss's cabinet not have a single English man on it recently? Out of 22 spots not one English male.

Is there an exact definition of an "English man" you know that we aren't aware of? Most of them are born and brought up in England, they seem pretty English to me. And why do you specifically point out males, what about English females?


I mean multi generational English with family members who died in wars defending England, people who have shed blood for England. People whose homeland England is and has always been. People who have defined the uniqueness of English culture from other cultures for thousands of years. People who have made England a desirable place to be vs the places everyone else wants to leave.

Rather than people whose parents came to England because it has a good economy.


> who died in wars defending England, people who have shed blood for England

Boo fucking hoo. 1/6th of all British forces in WW2 were Indian, of course you don't count them. All this is ironic considering Britain murdered and raped the rest of the world to be where it is today. India was the cash cow of the empire without which Britain would not survive the war. And economic migration has been happening throughout human history, it is a fact of life. Immigrants today are actually saving the country by keeping the economy afloat and maintaining values of hard work which the "multi-generational English" people seem to have forgotten. Stop being a miserable old racist c*nt, go outside and actually talk to some brown people and fix your pitiful existence.


> Britain murdered and raped the rest of the world

Now you're just rationalizing what's going on in England today. Every country on the planet fought tooth and nail for all of our existence.

> 1/6th of all British forces in WW2 were Indian

I like how you make the distinction between Indian and Britain.

> values of hard work which the "multi-generational English" people seem to have forgotten

All that hard work only seems to matter in the context of European and North American and Australian countries for some reason.Why isn't India the greatest GDP country on the planet if what you're saying is true?

I'm a huge fan of brown people and all people in general. I'm just not a huge fan of the billions of a singular culture subsuming the world simply because they don't have ecologically responsible numbers of children. Indians are fleeing India but you can't flee the planet.


Wrong on every point. Luckily right now I have the patience to correct you.

> Every country on the planet fought tooth and nail for all of our existence

Ah yes. Killing hundreds of millions and siphoning off trillions over couple hundred years, only to "fight for your own existence". You even worship Churchill as a hero who was worse than Hitler. You are a joke.

> I like how you make the distinction between Indian and Britain.

Asians were considered as a different class/caste in your own English legal system and denied certain rights back then. So yeah.

> Why isn't India the greatest GDP country on the planet if what you're saying is true?

Yeah, and why can't we solve nuclear fusion already? Surely it only takes a few years...

> because they don't have ecologically responsible numbers of children

Poverty leads to high birth rates, not culture. If you had the slightest clue about anything you would understand that fundamental fact. Read up on demographic transition, and how it has been delayed in Asia/Africa because of European imperialism. I recommend the book Factfulness by Hans Rosling. Birth rates are falling everywhere and human population will hit the peak in a few decades. As for fucking the planet, read up on which countries have the highest cumulative emissions and continue to have high per-capita emissions because of their greedy lifestyles. There was a time when London had worse air than Delhi today. Things change, unlike your static worldview.

I'm really starting to question the quality of your education system, maybe that's why your country is failing. No worries, we're here to take the wheel. Signing off from London, UK.


You lost me at Churchill is worse than Hitler. He's a British hero and to be honest a European hero.

It's clear that some of the Indian people flooding into England have minimal respect for the British culture. It's just something they have to memorize to get the immigration paper. I wonder how many Indian people in power have the same views.

Its just sad to see an entire culture that gave the world so much...subsumed by a culture that has ecologically irresponsible amounts of children.

To be fair the British are opening the doors to let it happen.


> You lost me at Churchill is worse than Hitler

For Indians*. It's not hard to understand, Churchill caused more harm than Hitler in India.

> people flooding into England have minimal respect for the British culture

Wrong. I respect rule of law, democratic institutions, scientific rigour, equality, secularism. That I believe is British culture. I will always root for these values, and indeed these are also the fundamental values of the Indian constitution. My problem is only with people like you who have forgotten these values. I consider myself more British than you. Well tbf I consider myself a global citizen.

What I do not respect is denial of your own history, weird unfounded superiority complex and meddling in other countries affairs. US and allies have a history of supporting non-democratic genocidal regimes in many parts of the world including the Indian subcontinent, all while claiming a moral high ground.

> subsumed by a culture that has ecologically irresponsible amounts of children.

You don't learn do you? Go read the book I mentioned in my previous comment.

> To be fair the British are opening the doors to let it happen.

There are many Brits smarter than you who see the bigger picture.


I'm actually not British but you're right the Brits can't even fight for their own country they kind of deserve it to become unrecognizable and run by people who think Hitler would have been better running things than Churchill.

Good for you Indians. Keep up the good work of turning Britain into your home literally.


They annoying thing is that it's not even privitsed in a sensible way. A reservoir company could pay a yearly rent to the taxpayer for the amount of water it could capture, and the space the resoviors use. They could then charge for water on demand per litre to a company that distributes that water, then that company would charge per litre to the consumer

Having to buy 1000l of water for £1 and sell it for £1.20 gives a major investment to not throw the stock away through leaks. Other company have incentives to do things like building more storage (to buy supply when it's cheap and sell when it's not), and the consumer gets to choose which supplier to use. Same with sewage.

The main problem is the last mile would have to remain in public ownership as you couldn't have multiple companies providing pipes to each premises, and that I believe is where most of the leaks go


Internet companies are a good example of how difficult it is to bring a utility to a giant metro area. I'm not sure if that's because of government barriers or because of actual physical logistics. Even Google Fiber seems to have given up. But then you look at places where internet is managed by the government like Fort Collins and you have extremely fast, extremely cheap community internet. But then again, that's a pretty small homogenous rural community. I'm not too familiar with the ins and outs of utility distribution just sporadic data points so I can't hope to get close to the truth about this.

It does seem like if you have the government and industry working together on something, it's the worst of all worlds rather than just one or the other.


If the municipality provides the fibre to each house to a local data centre, then private companies can rent space in the data centre to provide services. You still get a choice between ISPs (some may want a proper internet provision, perhaps with BGP handling and no contention on the uplink, others may be happy with a company that provides a wifi access point that also irradiates a public SSID. Presumably the former will cost more, but that's fine)

Basically the local road (the fibre) is paid for by the local city and run on behalf of the residents, the local road transports people (packets) to the airport (municipal data centre), where the ISPs pay landing fees to take people where they need to go at different rates for different services, with competition between ISPs, and pretty easy entry costs, ensuring high standards, low prices, and plenty of choice.


What are you talking about on Liz Truss cabinet? first result on google was this article https://www.npr.org/2022/09/08/1121610336/uk-liz-truss-diver... and every single one of them is english. "Raised in london", etc. etc.


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