Reminder that space only allows for radiative cooling (since there is no air to absorb heat) so data centers in space are going to have massive cooling panels.
I bought the starter membership which is 20k credits for $18 and I have 5.7k credits left. They charge 50 credits a generation for nano banana. There was some LLM usage to plan the images too so the math is a little blurry but that should give you a rough sense
So true. In my career (anecdotally), I’ve never encountered a data problem where the answer was ‘you didn’t choose this tech/language/product over another.’ It always comes down to decisions of governance and ownership. It’s Conway’s Law all the way down.
Fair point. I suspect if you priced that workload out on per-token API costs, it would be completely unviable for a bootstrapped business. The flat-rate subscription is really the only thing making it accessible right now.
> The flat-rate subscription is really the only thing making it accessible right now.
So this paragraph from the "Welcome To Gas Town" article [0] suggests to me that real, sustained users of a Gas Town instance are paying far, far more than -say- 600USD per month:
Gas Town is also expensive as hell. You won’t like Gas Town if you ever have to think, even for a moment, about where money comes from. I had to get my second Claude Code account, finally; they don’t let you siphon unlimited dollars from a single account, so you need multiple emails and siphons, it’s all very silly. My calculations show that now that Gas Town has finally achieved liftoff, I will need a third Claude Code account by the end of next week. It is a cash guzzler.
200 USD per month is something that I -as a working programmer- wouldn't think twice about spending for a fantastically useful tool (even if I had to spend it from my own pocket). If I had to pay 600 USD/month out-of-pocket, it would have me thinking for a bit to see if it was really worth it, but if the company was footing the bill, I'd expense it without a second thought.
Compared to USian programmer pay (especially Yeggie-level pay), 600 USD/month absolutely does not qualify as "a cash guzzler". Hell, that's less than the cost of the sort of health insurance you usually get at nice software companies.
I suppose that there's an alternative interpretation where Yeggie is concerned about the actual cost to the LLM company for the queries that Gas Town makes... but that seems unlikely to me. First, why would he care? Second, why would he say "You won’t like Gas Town if you ever have to think, even for a moment, about where money comes from."? I would give zero shits about where my LLM company's money comes from... that's not my problem.
He would care because the 200/m relies on users not using the whole allotment and is likely heavily subsidized. What if the true cost is 4x? (Feel free to add api pricing numbers and correct). Is a programmer willing to spend 2400/month?
If he did care, then why would he advertise and widely make the tool available? Wouldn't he keep it a secret closely held between him and his friends and colleagues?
After all, if folks that make real, sustained use of Gas Town are permitted to do it for 200, 400, or 600 USD per month, then widespread use of Gas Town absolutely destroys the heavy subsidy that his use of Gas Town theoretically relies on.
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