Can someone catch me up how FB et al are not the ones responsible for age verification?

Is it lack of something similar to PKI for identify verification?

If we go back a few years and analyze the porn magazines that are sold in a gas station, it's not up to the magazine to ensure that the "reader" has the legal age.

So we delegated the responsibility twice, first the gas station attendant must check the age of the buyer and then, the buyer should check the age of any reader.

So now, who's the "gas station attendant" in our situation?

because there are other sites/apps online too, and it's better to decouple the "obtaining the verification" and the "presenting the verification"

and if sites and apps don't need to be in the loop for this they can't end up leaking all over the 'net

Why would you want every site on the internet to traffic in government IDs? This is by far the least bad out of all possible ways to implement age checking. The benefit of this is that it can short-circuit support for more onerous age verification. The writing has been on the wall for some time now: the era of completely unrestricted internet is coming to an end. The question is how awful will the new normal be? This implementation is a win all around, a complete nothingburger. We should be celebrating it, not fighting it tooth and nail.

The tech crowds utter derangement over this minor mandate is truly a sight to behold.

> This is by far the least bad out of all possible ways to implement age checking.

Not quite. The least bad (that I'm aware of) is to mandate RTA headers (or an equivalent more comprehensive self categorization system) and to also mandate that major platforms (presumably OS and browsers, based on MAU or some such) implement support for filtering on those headers.

But sending a binned age as per the California law is the next best thing to that.

Someone at the BBC with a degausser yelling "Exterminate! Exterminate!"

> Digg's founder who started the company back in 2004

Their plan is to make the internet what is was 22 years ago.

I wonder how much it's possible to recreate some of the old magic.

I'm sure it's impossible, but what if it's not?

Is there really better confidence we could now detect a similar 2013 Chelyabinsk meteor event?

Yes? Rubin is supposed to contribute, and more broadly we have more and better "eyes" on the night's sky than ever before. There's always the opportunity for more tracking, but tracking without being able to do anything about it would've been pointless.

IRL

> If I went to the store and asked for a pack of cigarettes

online

> and I have no idea if I can trust them with my info

Why did you trust how your ID was scanned (if carded)?

With security cameras present, where did that scanned data end up?

After losing Dark Sky on Android, I discovered Foreca app. Works well in my area in the PNW.

One thing I learned is some post processing done by these services are better in some areas than others.

Will share this with my (IPv4-only) ISP. I'm sure it will help.

I couple years ago I read "A Mind at Play", Soni & Goodman, a biography on Claude Shannon. He grew up on a farm and the book mentions how he made extensive use of barbed wire fence telegraph (and if I recall telephone). Perhaps one of the early experiences Shannon had regarding information.

The MIT Museum had a display (last year) of Shannon's "toys", including the famous mouse maze. I don't recall any mention of his early days using barbed wire telegraph though.

I’ve had that book for several years. This thread has finally motivated me to start it.

"The Bit Player" (2018) film, "The Information" (Gleick) book,

"Who invented the transistor?" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46449618 :

> Who invented the electric fence gate?

> How does the electric fence gate lead to transistors?

> [ Relay, Electric gate, Flip-flop (electronics) ]

/? find a specific transcript from "The Bit Player" and "Claude Shannon: The Father of the Information Age" IEEE Information Theory Society video where the narrator makes the leap from the Morse dots and dashes on fence wire to the math of entropy (and logarithms and channel coding and capacity limits)

> /? find a specific transcript from "The Bit Player" and "Claude Shannon: The Father of the Information Age" IEEE Information Theory Society video where the narrator makes the leap from the Morse dots and dashes on fence wire to the math of entropy (and logarithms and channel coding and capacity limits)

Who is meant to be doing the finding, in this case?

There's a prompt and methods. That prompt can be used with any LLM

HN is for people, by people; I don’t use LLMs to create or consume HN content, and I don’t think it’s fair to expect others to do so either. For that matter, generated comments are against HN guidelines. Draw the rest of the owl.

"Gimme that for free." Because I have an AI preference.

I’m not arguing for using an AI, I’m simply asking you to write your own comment. I don’t have a “AI preference” but a preference to read comments as opposed to placeholders and shorthand stopgapped by prompts. There’s a reason why “let me Google that for you” style replies are frowned upon here.

It’s fair to ask you to write your comment, which was all I was suggesting. I am interested in what you had to say, and am genuinely curious in the point you were trying to make.

Otherwise what are we even doing here? The site is for human interaction, not AI mediated interactions steered by humans.

Please don’t take my line of inquiry as being opposed to you, rather can curious about what your prompt was alluding to. I’d rather get the information from the person who wrote the comment than assume any potential AI output generated by your prompt was what you meant, which is why I asked for clarification.

I'm seeing Groups.io show up more for hobbies/interests I have. It seems email can be a way to slow down heated discussions. Perhaps at the expense of push-back on using more email?

Anyone have any experiences to share with moving their discussion groups from Discord to Groups.io?

I didn't even notice the Copilot button in Notepad until it was mentioned, "Even Notepad has a Copilot button."