"it's unlikely your site/app will ever be as big as RapGenius"

Heroku's entire promise is scalability. And this isn't an edge case, it will bite you if you need anything over 1 dyno.

Yeah but for how long, a month? Do you honestly think this won't be fixed?

Well so far it's been unfixed for 3 years.

i'm a designer and a developer and i'm using bootstrap in my latest project as a base UI. i figured, i'm introducing some big new ideas that are hard enough to explain to my users, why make them discover how a new menu or form works? so i used bootstrap for all my typical interactions and it's saving me weeks of work i would have spent rolling my own custom framework.

and it doesn't look anything like bootstrap.

For curiosity sake, could you post a screenshot as an example of "not looking anything like bootstrap". Thanks!

We use some modified Bootstrap CSS at Blueprint (ss: http://d.pr/pqCT) for things like horizontal forms. You need to customize it, and new rules sometimes conflict with existing CSS, but it's working pretty well. I've used it in a more primary role on another serious web app and it's great because 2.0 has responsive CSS and has had lots of work done on it to make it stable across platform.

This is a wonderful example of how Bootstrap should work. Everything is familiar but it does not look cookie-cutter. The right amount of same and different go a long way.

We built the site for http://www.semantics3.com/ and we tried my best to use as little elements of bootstrap 1.4 as possible.

We loved the grid, the form elements and buttons and its sized. The first thing we re-did was the nav bar though. Apart from that we think the framework really accelerated the design process.

Did you ever feel like it got in the way?

I've been using it on new projects, but always found customizations a little awkward. Are you changing the actual bootstrap files (typography.less or whatever) or simply overriding them in your own style file?

I am overriding bootstrap.css. Which on hindsight seems like a bad idea. Now I am finding it a little difficult to migrate over to 2.0. So what I've ended up doing is copying over the new features that I want (like the new icons) and leaving the rest in legacy mode. No biggie. Dont really need a responsive design for this website.

I'm used to 960GS so I was at home when it came to bootstrap. I spent some time reading the examples provided, then started on a clean slate. Top nav, the mast then footer, then finally the main content. That way you are not technically tweaking their templates. You are branching out.

i'm smarter for reading this. need more.

Joel is a good writer. Especially his early stuff is golden. Go read some of it.

i agree with the no suit sentiment. but i work in a place where plenty of people look like crap in a suit. it's all about how you take care of yourself. you can look put together in shorts and flip flops. ultimately you're asking someone to give you hundreds of thousands of dollars. your ability to get dressed in the morning will say a lot about your ability to build a company.

wtf does this matter?

Just an inquiry...

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this isnt true. as long as youve submitted once before the deadline you're ok.

haha, i like that raising a family is a good option for when your startup fails

im wondering what the signal/noise ratio is like now, the first batch after the start fund. will be interesting to see how big and how awesome this next batch is.

I think unfortunately for YC the noise level will rise significantly. Before the start fund YC wasn't about money but rather building great products around strong individuals / teams. The funded believed in what they were doing and YC believed in them and together they walked a path toward success. While that won't change going forward, I think there will be a lot more people who apply and aren't as passionate or haven't thought about their ideas in as much depth but see money at the start of the rainbow as a way to figure it out.