With the old appengine console, you just went to one url - appengine.google.com and you found all the links in one place - application, logs, datastore, etc
Since the old appengine console was deprecated, it is difficult to remember the urls for the different services. One has to try and remember multiple urls. It is quite confusing and frustrating.
Greetings folks! One of the App Engine PMs here. That couldn't be further from the truth - we absolutely want people to use App Engine. If you want to manage your own infrastructure, Google Compute Engine is great. If you want something that scales automatically, and requires less management - App Engine is a great option. We've actually made a ton of changes recently, specifically on our support for docker based runtimes, new docs, and new runtime support (like nodejs, ruby, python3, etc).
I have one, how can European individuals use the paid version of any Google cloud services? Last time I checked only commercial entities were allowed to use the paid version.
Warning: IANAL. First, sorry for the pain! As an explanation, it's all about VAT (determining it, collecting it, etc.). Outside of Ireland we dump it on you:
> “Business” status means that you'd like to see a potential economic benefit from your development activities, for example: using the Google Cloud Platform to develop prototypes or applications with a view to generating revenue in the future. Most software developers -- including affiliates, sole traders, self-employed merchants, partnerships, students and others -- use Google Cloud Platform for business purposes.
I can't help you decide what your VAT on the use of our services would be (this is the realm of accounts and lawyers). I know AWS makes a different decision than we do, and we're very aware of the friction (again, sorry!).
Disclaimer: I work on Compute Engine, but again IANAL.
Thanks for your answer, although its worrying we need to have a lawyer around to see how we can signup without accidentally violating my local country's VAT regulations as a developer who just wants to pay and build stuff :(
Apologies you had a bad experience. There's no doubt the original App Engine had some... quirks.
You may want to take a look at Managed VMs. All of the new runtimes are based on Docker images, are entirely extensible, and don't require the use of the original App Engine APIs:
It's great to see App Engine getting better! I'm exploring it again after trying the original app a few years back and am enjoying the improved interface and abundant documentation and tutorials.
One suggestion: Make a cloud storage product option free up to a few megabytes for hosting small personal sites. Maybe it exists already but I haven't found it.
You can easily run a small personal site on the free tier of GoogleAppEngine.
Just google for "app engine static site"
There are a ton of options on what you can achieve inside the free tier. But the simplest one for the use case you seem to require is to author a static html site in a good WYSIWYG html editor and then deploying it as a static site in GAE.
Does Google still patch the stack (kernel, web server, interpreter, database, modules, etc.) whenever security issues are discovered? I always thought that was one of the best bits of the App Engine model.
Currently we patch all the software on the VM, but not the application container itself. We make new base images available, but the user has to re-deploy to pick up these changes.
I'm currently trying to get my feet wet on GAE. Judging from your statement, are you suggesting that people should look into Managed VMs and maybe skip the regular GAE (or known as the original GAE)?
Perhaps the original GAE will be deprecated in the future?
No, that's not the case. Managed VMs is a more flexible environment than our "GAE Standard" environment, but (at least currently) comes with some of the tradeoffs of a full VM (startup time, minimum size, etc.). If you've got say a vanilla python app that doesn't need custom native modules, GAE Standard is great! If you want to run something we don't currently support, then Managed VMs gives you the flexibility a Compute Engine VM can offer you (run whatever you like).
Disclaimer: I work on Compute Engine, not App Engine but I'm familiar enough with their thinking.
Thanks for the info @boulos. I've been watching GCP division quietly building solid products and ecosystems while the limelight shine towards AWS and Azure to some extend.
I'm also very excited to see GCP people responding to any GCP questions and/or clarifying its past "reputation" with a calm manner ;). Clearly the tide has changed (probably comes from the top too? :)).
Me and my partner are planning to invest a significant amount of time to the GCP ecosystems!
I think technically that command is still hidden lol. You can run it, it just doesn't show up in the docs. We'll be officially releasing that one in a few weeks.
Frustrating that it doesn't specify how it gets those versions. Is it always direct from the node folks so it's going to always have all versions or do they have their own cache?
https://github.com/GoogleCloudPlatform/google-cloud-node#clo...