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Heroku ~ $200 Intercom: $150 Amazon Web Services (S3, Route 53) < $10 SendGrid < $50 MailGun $60 Slack < $50 GitHub $50 BareMetrics: $29 ChurnBuster: $59 DNSimple: < $50 Evernote < $10 Gauges $6 Olark $49 Pingdom $10 Stripe(if you call it SaaS) 2.9% plus 30cent per transaction


And you run a saas too? Just curious to to know how many users you serve with this. Only if you are okay to say it in public.


A couple of hundred users(smaller number of accounts since each account may have more than 1 user)


Some apps are like that.

There was this analytics tool called get.gaug.es that i really liked looking at for $6/month. In addition to my existing mission critical analytics apps like mixpanel and google analytics.

I would never have cancelled guag.es but since my credit card switched, i just didn't like it enough to be bothered to update it. A phone call is probably the only thing that would have gotten me to update it. Probably not, but it increases the odds from 0% to greater than 0%


ASK:

I love the UX for the stripe checkout. It seems like the integration script creates a full page iframe allowing the widget to have full control over the UX. Is there any guide to building a similar full page iframe widget for other applications?


I had the same reaction.. I always tend to use the word "affordable" since I personally interpret "cheap"as low quality.

However, I usually interpret "affordable" as a good value for whatever price (even if it is actually expensive)


"Inexpensive" strikes me as a good alternative.


Noticed some console.log statements in the .html source. Isn't this invalid for internet explorer? It would probably stop execution once the error is triggered


Yikes, is it really invalid in IE? I left those in cause I was constantly debugging that progress bar, but I'll definitely take them out if they're causing problems for anyone.


I have two rails SaaS apps that generate increasingly fulltime income on heroku.

combined costs currently at $140/month each app has 1 free web dyno, 1 worker, starter postgres DB, ssl, plus a few extras

Looking at the new offerings like digital ocean, i'm really tempted to switch over, but a voice in my head keeps telling me it makes no sense as I don't really have strong linux-sysadmin type skills. Even getting rails to work on new macs takes me 1-2 painful days.

Anyone have an eta of what it might take someone with limited sysadmin skills to cut over to something like digital ocean from heroku?



My progression has been PaaS -> AWS -> Digital Ocean -> Dedicated and I strongly feel that if you're going to make the leap from PaaS to VPS, it's not a whole lot harder to go dedicated and there you'll find much sweeter value. I'm currently on an OVH SP2 (Xeon + SSD + 32GB ram in a data center in Quebec so not terrible latency to where I am in the northeast US) that I pay $90/mo for (http://www.ovh.com/us/dedicated-servers/sp2.xml) and it's just jaw-droppingly powerful. If you're going to go through the trouble of migrating your app anyway, it's worth taking a good look at dedicated offerings like that as well.


OVH SP-series servers do not use ECC ram. This is unusual in the xeon server space. Even most VPS server providers use it.


Heh, I'm at the Digital Ocean stage of your flowchart, I just have to build something to fund that $90/month...


Not long. I had zero sys-admin skills, but DO has a slew of community guides that step by step you through setting up pretty much every application you might need.


It's possible something like Vagrant may help, but there's still a learning curve.


I read this to mean that he has taken steps to limit the specific data he knows. So even if he has or had access to documents, he hasnt tried to memorize anything that could be damaging. Meaning they cant force him to reveal information he "doesn't know"


Can we assume that if he is the part of the secret key then if somebody does something bad with him we will lose all the secret docs?


I have been using Stripes and Braintree's "Store/Verify then Charge Later" model in SaaS apps I build for customers in the service(Reserving services in advance) industry.

I have found that better that the original Auth/Capture flow since the final amount to be charged can be highly variable. Can anyone shed some light on when/if this auth/capture approach might make more sense in this type of use case?


You can follow a model similar to say hotels, where they auth the card for the room charge + expected incidentals, and then charge for the actual amount at the end of the stay. The amount you capture can be less than the amount you authorized.


> The amount you capture can be less than the amount you authorized.

The amount you capture can also be more than the amount you authorized, but how much more depends on the bank and is not known until you try.


It actually depends on the merchant category code (MCC) of your merchant account when it is setup. Only certain category codes, such as hotels and gas stations, are allowed to capture for more than they authorize.


Can you share approximately how long the process took you? Thinking of going down that road with 2 small basic heroku rails apps 1 web, 1 worker, 1 small postgres DB. very little traffic. Both apps already at ~$170/month on Heroku. These are paid SaaS B2B apps, but they generate so little traffic but the way heroku partitions their services or addons, this really should cost like $30-40/month on a regular "hosting environment"

I know almost nothing from a unix sysadmin perspective, but would invest the time if it is feasible.


It took about four full days of work, spread out over a couple of weeks. It would have taken me much longer had I not been helped by Scott (my friend mentioned in the post).

I don't know the details of your app, but $170/month sounds high for that server arrangement. If you set up a few auto-scaling Amazon micro instances, it would give you more capacity and be cheaper. Of course, the tradeoff is that you'd need to either learn how to do it or hire somebody. :-/ Good luck!


2 apps, same profile SSL $20 postgres basic $9 1 free web dyno $0 1 additional worker $36 Scheduler addon usage: $5

$70 for each app(Its actually ~$140.00) (approximately 100-200 business customers might use the apps daily)

And of course, bad billing practices where they dont stop charging you for addons you have stopped/remove and send invoices 1 month late so by the time you notice, another round of billing as occurred incorrectly. Have resulted in me paying $350 and $251) in the past 2 months.

Exact quote from Heroku customer support email, after overcharge of ~$300 in past 2 months

"I'm sorry that the delay in receiving your invoices caused the charges to continue for longer than you would have liked, however please keep in mind that we offer your Current Usage details[ on your account page]"

Yeah, not happy with heroku at all. Even though i can better use my time generating additional sales for the apps, Im so pissed, I plan to burn time move and cancel ASAP...


You could host your apps easily with a $5 a month digital ocean VPS.


You can also look into aws beanstalk. It does all the autoscaling/deployment stuff in a gui/easier api


And once a recruiter gets a hold of those buzzwords, it becomes a fixed requirement


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