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Repeat after me: caulk and paint make it what it ain't

It's "caulk and paint make me the carpenter I ain't"

It's really not that hard to identify hate. We don't have to engage in epistemology

It is hard to identify though, someone is always offended by something. Free speech is about protecting speech you hate, not speech you agree with.

Nobody said anything about offensive words.

It is. Just fox news screams about the "true unemployment" U6 number when Democratics are in charge and then go back to reporting on U3 when a Republican is in office.

That said, measurement is not as easy today with so many gig workers. Government data is often driven by proxies because its too hard to measure directly and the number of people getting an llc for their uber/doordash/lyft/etc job is throwing off our math. Government currently uses number of new businesses as a proxy since generally people starting businesses are hiring people.


> Just fox news screams about the "true unemployment" U6 number when Democratics are in charge and then go back to reporting on U3 when a Republican is in office.

To be fair, CNN and MSNBC do the same in reverse.


CNN and MSNBC are not propaganda networks in the way that Fox is.

Hell, reddit hates on reddit all the time. Spez in particular is hated across the board.

Agree that they largely don't change behavior. Although I will say, I've not logged into my account since the API shenanigans and don't regularly visit the site anymore. I'm mostly just on here and fark.


Most left leaning forums look negatively on profit motive, and reddit is largely very left wing. Whatever that means nowadays. It's reasonable to be wary of incentives, but sometimes that zeal is misplaced.

Having said that, I don't think any site can go mainstream and maintain a semblance of quality discourse. If nothing else, it will become botted and infiltrated by shills. But even without that, normies will ruin it much earlier than any sophisticated attacks are necessary.


I'm sorry, a catholic and an lutheran is the face of jewish power?

For someone claiming to be an AI skeptic, your post here, and posts in your profile certainly seem to be at least partially AI written.

For someone claiming to be an AI skeptic, you certainly seem to post a lot of pro-AI comments.

Makes me wonder if this is an AI agent prompted to claim to be against AIs but then push AI agenda, much like the fake "walk away" movement.


I have an old account, you can read my history of comments and see if my style has changed. No need to take my word for it.

Tangential off topic, but reminds me of seeing so many defenses for Brexit that started with “I voted Remain but…”

Nowadays when I read “I am an AI skeptic but” I already know the comment is coming from someone that has just downed the kool aid.


Your experience is not universal.

If you look at the people pushing these bills it's the anti-trans and anti-porn activists. Not the left.

In the UK we have many people on the left with these perspectives. It comes from the second-wave feminist tradition.

But generally speaking, online age verification is one of those issues where the left-right ideological divide doesn't map neatly. People support and oppose it for various different reasons. Much like the assisted suicide issue.


This issue looks partisan from the outset, but both sides push the same thing. They just use partisan justifications.

Age verification efforts in the US have been privacy-attacking (demanding government ID) whereas the system being proposed in europe is privacy-preserving (zero-knowledge proof).

In Europe though? You have those?

Find can be dangerous it has an exec flag

Almost like defense in depth is key to good security. GP is ignoring that a truffle defense is only good until the first person is tricked

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