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what's your point?

> It might be necessary to create a legal basis, but it's just a matter of doing it

Tell me you don't know anything about the law without telling me


These metaphors are always so facile - if a backhoe dug a randomized foundation for your house (all the while apologizing and re-digging) I'm pretty sure you would not use it over the shovel. A better analogy would've been using dynamite to dig a foundation over using a shovel.

Apple is the only place I've ever worked where I really feel I'll get summarily fired for saying the wrong thing during a meeting or in my pod (if a manager overhears) - the culture is that draconian. So don't hold your breath waiting for someone to tell you things they're under NDA about (or just general litigation pressure).

. chintzy garbage

This is a slur.



> This doesn't make sense in a rather fundamental way - there is no way to design a real compute

Hmm I guess the apple silicon laptops don't exist? Did I dream that I bought one year? Maybe I did - it has been a confusing year.


You did dream, though not that you bought a laptop, but rather that you understood the comment.

You literally say in a sibling comment

> he's talking about real systems with real processes in a generic way

So which real but impossible to design systems are we discussing then if not the Apple silicon systems?


You literally cut off the quote before the actual point is explained and got hung on your imagined issue, of course it's Apple silicon systems.

If you want to progress you might want follow the HN discussion guidelines and just explain your actual argument so that your mistake can be addressed.


> there is no way to design a real computer where doing some useless work is better than doing no work, just think about energy consumption and battery life since this is laptops.

you are saying either

1. these laptops are impossible

2. these laptops exhaust battery life

both of these things are manifestly false. so what exactly are you trying to say?


3. Doing useless work wastes battery life

Do you not experience cognitive dissonance due to the fact that Apple silicon laptops have literally the best battery life on the market?

No, I'm smarter than that

This is the way: make every one of these people with their wild ass claims put their money where their mouths are.

Hold up. This is a funny comment but thinking should be free. It’s when they are trying to sell you something (looking at you “all the AI CEOs”) that unsubstantiated claims are problematic.

Then again the problem is that the public has learned nothing from the theranos and WeWorks and even more of a problem is that the vc funding works out for most of these hype trains even if they never develop a real business.

The incentives are fucked up. I’d not blame tech enthusiasts for being too enthusiastic


It's not the public, the general public would like to see tech ceo heads on spikes (first politician to jail Zuckerberg will win re-election for the rest of their short lives) but the general attitude in DC is to capitulate because they believe the lies + the election slush fund money doesn't hurt.

I'm fine with free thinking, but a lot of these are just so repetitive and exausting because there's absolutely no backing from any of those claims or a thread of logic.

Might as well talk about how AI will invent sentient lizards which will replace our computers with chocolate cake.


> Hold up. This is a funny comment but thinking should be free.

Thinking usually happens inside your head.


“Holy tautology Batman.”

What is your point?

If you’re trying to say that they should have kept their opinion to themselves, why don’t you do the same?

Edit: tone down the snark


> What is your point?

Holy Spiderman what is your point? That if someone says something dumb I can never challenge them nor ask them to substantiate/commit?

> tone down the snark

It's amazing to me that the neutral observation "thinking happens in your head" is snarky. Have you ever heard the phrase "tone police"?


No. Sorry. I meant my own snark.

> don’t like Trump, but he’s the first guy in a long long time to actually do things and not just talk about doing things.

Have you really never heard the phrase "it's much easier to tear things down than build them up"? Is the manifest obviousness of that phrase really not obvious to you?

Yes you too can

1. Talk about blowing up buildings

2. Blow up buildings

So he's not the first of anything in any length of time because this is what assholes all around the world do every day.


> I'm sitting here struggling to think of why the hell you need a terminal emulator in an IDE

This is the dumbest response anyone can ever have to being presented with the answer to their own question of "what's wrong".

Ok you don't think this is important but your customer (or whatever) just to told you it's important to them. Surprise surprise this is literally why xcode sucks (because Apple seeks to dictate instead of accommodating).


shrug I don't have customers, or whatevers. I've been using Xcode for over 20 years. In all that time, it's been denigrated and put down as rubbish, meanwhile I've found it to be pretty darn good.

Perhaps I'm doing something wrong, but whatever it is, it works for me. I still don't see any advantage to putting a second-rate (they're never as good as the real thing) terminal into an IDE. Someone mentioned project-specific completions, but I can't say I've ever needed the terminal to do that, and I generally don't run IDE-specific tools (also mentioned) from the terminal either.

Maybe my natural workflow gels better with how Apple envisioned people using the IDE, perhaps I happen to be on the "golden path", but ... again shrug. Works for me.


I often wonder that same thing about many hn commenters!

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