My experience is not consistent with yours.

Yes. Tesla don't make bad cars. Elon makes people believe things that aren't true. It's the later that causes the statistic.

have you ever sat in one?

I would say the quality might be high for an american car but here in europe it's absolute dogshit tier.

Excited to see Google competitive at the frontier level again. Hopefully they sort out their infrastructure and model versioning so that we can feel confident building production applications on top of their APIs. The capacity limitations I've experienced with them in the past have been deeply problematic.

The webpage isn't the point. The software the webpage refers to is the point.

LM studio is closed source software built ON TOP OF code released by the author of Nativ.

jan.ai is the F/LOSS alternative to it. If you do want a gui.

The result increased the likelihood of irl performance attendance.

I don't really know what my friends listen to these days.

Most of my friend nowadays (40-42 year old group) either don't listen to music at all or just put on pop radio at work and pay no attention. And almost all of them are weirdly proud of their lack of interest in music and wear it like a bizarre badge of honour. Sucks being the only one left who is interested in music.

I wonder if the real difference is that everyone has earbuds versus playing through a speaker

We had earbuds in in early 2000s too, just not the wireless kind.

An important part of my observation is that everyone is using them, not just that they are available

And Bluetooth still doesn't have a good "headphone splitter" function to plug in 2 or more sets of headphones, does it?

What is the business model here? The website made think "sounds too good to be true"

Fair question. The short version is: the desktop app and CLI are free and always will be; optional cloud & AI services will cost money.

Working w/ .xlsx files shouldn't cost money, and we think people should be able to use their own AI.

We expect to charge orgs/enterprises for a cloud product around governance, and for AI where/when it makes sense. We also plan to make some money when large companies use Nobie for training or to power their products.

Right now, though, we’re entirely focused on making the desktop app and CLI hands down the best xlsx experience in the world. The paid cloud product comes later.

Also, we've designed the product so it costs us zero dollars to run :)

having zero marginal cost is nice and allows us to do things that others can't

Is this because your free customers bring their own ai/tokens?

Yeah, we're not providing subsidized AI to people. It costs us nothing to give people a great, computer-use friendly, native spreadsheet app

How does that work, do you not pay the developers who build and maintain this software?

I'm one of those developers :)

I linked in this thread, and Matt replied above in this thread, but we charge companies making >$100M in revenue for using Nobie to provide a service to users, or for using it to help train models.

That was our goal :P

https://nobie.com/desktop-app-license-terms

Not sure why this was downvoted, I came to read more about it. I have a friend that runs a firm and uses Legora and can’t stand it. We have conversations all of the time about pain points. I sent him the Claude Law docs, and while he’s not technical he was intrigued because he envisions his workflows to eventually be similar to mine as a developer.