Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submit | odie5533's commentslogin

Flock cameras are assisted suicide for dying neighborhoods. They don't prevent crime, they record crime. Cleaning up vacant lots, planting trees, street lighting, trash removal, and traffic calming like adding planters and crosswalks reduce crime.

What is crime anymore when a felon is the president?

What is a felony anymore when the felony is "submitted bad paperwork"?

I love how we in Africa can finally see open corruption in US. You guys can't be high and mighty anymore. You are one of us now.

like the somali daycares?

Fuck me, that is a deeply depressing sick burn.

The vast majority of crimes are committed by a small percentage of people. The real issue is prosecutors who refuse to incarcerate repeat offenders. But having video evidence is a powerful tool for a motivated prosecutor to actually take criminals off the streets

It's wild that you think the problem with the US is too low of an incarceration rate. 25% of all prisoners in the world are in the US

You have to understand that the people who want mass incarceration/neo slavery are never going to want to stop locking people up.

Of course he thinks the incarceration rate is too low; people who express this opinion are at some level a justification for incarceration rates continuing to rise.


Why would you want someone who commits a violent crime to avoid prison?

It can be true (and likely is) that both:

a) much more time and effort should be focused on catching and stopping the most persistent repeat offenders (sometimes by locking them up); and

b) orders of magnitude too many Americans are currently in prison.


Who do you think those people are that are incarcerated in the USA?

I come across this rather frequently among people from sheltered backgrounds like those who graduated from mom and dad taking care of them, all the way through to Mega Corp/university taking care of them, and absolutely cannot fathom why everyone doesn’t just eat cake.

I have a working theory that this effect, whatever one wants to call it, of people being too abstracted from reality, is ultimately the source of collapse of all kinds of organizations of humans… including civilizations.

It is, for example also why America can have so many vile warmongering people, because not only do they not have to lead troops into battle, have their children drafted into the front lines, or pay for the invariable disaster and murder they perpetrated and orchestrated; but in the most grotesque way, they profit from it and immensely; usually also combining it with other types of fraud like “money printing”, i.e., counterfeiting, which they use to plunder the wealth they accumulated through murder, mayhem, and fraud.


We spend $80 billion a year on incarceration in the US, and have the highest incarceration rate in the world. Your plan increases both. Do you honestly think that if we spend $160 billion or $240 billion a year and double or triple our incarcerated population that we'd solve crime?

Look at places and countries with low crime. They don't have the most Flock cameras, the most prisoners, or the most powerful surveillance evidence because while those may solve a crime, they don't solve crime as a whole.


[flagged]


Iceland is one of the most peaceful countries in the world (murder rate 0.54), 36 incarcerations per 100k, police don't carry guns, and it's not known for its widespread mass surveillance system.

Portugal is one of the most peaceful in the world (murder rate 0.7), 118 incarcerations per 100k, and doesn't have license plate readers or mass surveillance.

USA murder rate is 6.3, 541 incarcerations per 100k, extremely high recidivism, and an amazing array of surveillance systems.

Portugal decriminalized all drugs in 2001. Guess they should have bought Flock cameras instead?


> Can you name such a place with low crime, low incarceration rate, low surveillance, and importantly, low black population?

Andorra and Finland both meet your four criteria.


> The real issue is prosecutors who refuse to incarcerate repeat offenders.

Sometimes judges contribute as well.


The real problem with prosecutors is that they don't want to prosecute. When I was on the grand jury in my city a couple of years ago, there was a slow morning and the assistant DA said that there were about 4000 cases per year and that they brought 30 of those to trial. He didn't think anything of it, for him it was a story about how they loved trials because "they were so much fun". But if they were so much fun, why are less than 1% of cases going to trial?

Plea deals.

Plea deals subvert justice for both those innocent who are bullied into pleading out, and for those who are wickedly guilty and get a big discount on the penalty exacted. Plea deals give the system extra capacity for prosecution, encouraging the justice system to fill the excess capacity, while simultaneously giving an underfunded system that doesn't have enough capacity the appearance of being able to handle the load. Bad all around.


>"The real issue is prosecutors who refuse to incarcerate repeat offenders"

Sure. US prosecutors are so lenient that the US is the capital of incarceration


Depends a lot on the city/state. Check super blue cities like Seattle or San Francisco, and the people there complain that the justice system doesn't work as repeat offenders are let go, for one reason or another.

The big incarceration states are most likely deep red states.


The incarceration rate of every single US state is higher than that of every country in the European continent except Belarus, Russia and Turkey. Each state's incarceration rate is also higher than that of every country in the OECD (a club of mostly rich countries) except Chile, Costa Rica and Turkey.

Of the exceptions I have listed, Turkey has the highest incarceration rate of 366 per 100k. Even so, it is still lower than that of 41 states, falling between Hawaii (367) and Connecticut (326).

Source: https://www.prisonpolicy.org/global/2024.html


I live in Canada, to me the US is a whole. I am pretty sure one can find close to crimeless areas there along with something totally opposite. does not matter from the outside.

This is literally true and you think you are being snarky but just look ignorant.

I can't tell which element(s) of the previous post you are criticizing.

Ignorant of what may I ask? Also I do not "think".

Any evidence of what you're saying about prosecutors and video surveillance?

there exists evidence proving that a fraction of individuals commit the majority of violent crime. thus, incarcerating those particular individuals would inherently reduce the majority of violent crime. is something missing from this equation?

I read that as questioning whether better evidence would actually help. Which I assume is a reference to some prosecutors ignoring certain crimes as a matter of policy, for example there was news a bit ago about CA choosing to ignore shoplifting under some amount.

> is something missing from this equation?

Decades of historical evidence to the contrary.

If you’d like to have an informed opinion, at least engage with the academic material. Otherwise you come off sounding naïve, insisting that complex problems have simple solutions.

Edit: maybe my ears are a bit sensitive, but I can’t help but hear a faint whistle in the wind, maybe only at a frequency a dog could hear. But no, surely not here in gentlemanly company.


What evidence to the contrary? 1% of the US population does commit over 60% of violent crime: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3969807/

That’s not what I’m disputing, of course. I’m disputing that the grandparent’s assertion that if we (by your stats) simply lock up 1% of the population that violent crime would drop by 60%.

I mean, trivially, using our brains for a nanosecond, what if that 1% of the population is almost always 16-18 year olds when they commit those violent crimes. The 16-18 demographic is roughly 4% of the US population (Google). That would mean locking up 1 in 4 high school students for 6-20 of their most formative years, and thrusting them back into society with a “Mission Accomplished” banner hanging behind you.

Play with the numbers a bit (maybe it’s 1 in 20), but the point stands. Using imprisonment to try to quarantine a demographic that is perceived as irreparably violent is a barbaric, sophomoric idea that has very little evidence of success in the modern era.


Don't jail criminals because maybe they're young, that's your argument? Sounds like a something that's already part of the sentencing policy, leniency of first time offenders.

There are two ideas here - locking up actual criminals and locking up people who happen to fit the pattern of a criminal even without committing any crime. You're arguing against the latter, but I don't think anybody was proposing that.

you are accusing me of virtue signalling without discussing the evidence. this in itself is a virtue signal. I'm not trying to insult you by saying this ... you are behaving hypocritically. lots of people don't treat that gently, I genuinely suggest you be careful towards whom you act that way. if you have an actual point I'm happy to chat about it, however my tolerance of snippy snappy rhetoric is running low

Nah man I’m going to continue to proudly call out people who skirt the line of racism by advocating for the same policies that racists have championed since the fall of the Confederacy. Say it with your chest next time, there’s a reason that it’s not tolerated in polite company. I guess maybe some of YCombinator would enjoy it though, judging by their investments and the rhetoric of those they are associated with.

it sounds to me like you would prefer moral grandstanding about north american politics instead of sharing discussion. not interested, thanks for the opportunity to practice my patience


the original should be the submission link over reddit

In theory that sounds good, but in practice our private system has created the best universities in the world and educates an immense number of students to highly employable levels.

The reduction was specifically to the in-window side of the edge, so it's definitely greater than 14%.

Interesting, I've always approached from the outside in.

I approach from whatever side the mouse happens to be on...

never thought about it before but after playing with it a while i notice i tend to approach from the right, which means moving out if i'm inside on the right side. i think this is because my positioning accuracy seems to be higher moving leftwards than rightwards...

I spent $10 in 2 minutes with that and gave up

Their 50 USD per month plan gives you 24M tokens per day: https://www.cerebras.ai/pricing

I had that for a few months and cancelled. They have minutely rate limits as well so you get 3-4 hyperspeed responses and then a 45 second pause waiting for the throttling to let your next request through.

And then, depending on what you're working on, the 24M daily allotment is gone in under an hour. I regularly burned it in about 25 minutes of agent use.

I imagine if I had infinite budget to pay regular API rates on a high usage tier, it would be really quite good though.


> They have minutely rate limits as well so you get 3-4 hyperspeed responses and then a 45 second pause waiting for the throttling to let your next request through.

I haven’t really gotten that, though have noticed on some occasions:

A) high server load notifications, most commonly, can delay an answer by about 3-10 seconds

B) hangs, this happens quite rarely, not sure if a network issue or something on their side, but sometimes the submitted message just freezes (e.g. nothing happening in OpenCode), doesn’t seem deliberate because resubmitting immediately works, more often than not

> And then, depending on what you're working on, the 24M daily allotment is gone in under an hour. I regularly burned it in about 25 minutes of agent use.

That’s a lot of tokens, almost a million a minute! Since the context is about 128k, you’d be doing about 8 full context requests every minute for 25 minutes straight.

I can see something like that, but at that point it feels like the only thing that’d actually be helpful would be caching support on their end.

You must be on some pretty high tier subscriptions with the other providers to get the same performance!


I think solutions like Plasmic, Refine, and React-Admin probably have a strong place in this AI future. They combine being able to work LLM-first while still offering agility by providing a solid foundation to build on. Otherwise you're stuck to the whims of untested AI slop for everything from security to component design. There's a reason people writing AI code still use libraries and it's the same reason we used libraries pre-AI. They're tested, they're stable, they have clear documentation. Just because the cost of code is zero doesn't mean the cost of software systems is zero.


Medicaid-receiving immigrants could have their immigration status change, legal violations, emergency medicaid use, sometimes there's state funded coverage that immigrants are offered, etc. There's lots of reasons where Medicaid will have information on immigrants.


That doesnt mean they are illegal right off the bat - there is no reasonable way to filter out the "illegal" members of the roles and essentially making it so the DOJ has a list of people who they can cross reference with expiring status and the moment the clock strikes midnight and their status changes they can get picked up. They should not have all those records for fishing expedititions.


You wouldn't ack the message if you're not up to process it.


I migrated to Purelymail around the same time! It's working great for me. Unlimited domains, unlimited users, easy to setup. I'm slowly moving all my accounts over to my own domain.


They've already suggested using Dev Containers. https://code.claude.com/docs/en/devcontainer


Guidelines | FAQ | Lists | API | Security | Legal | Apply to YC | Contact

Search: