Maybe you mean Dooleys. It's toffee rather than coffee and is typically sold at extremely low end bars and nightclubs in the UK, or at least it was 15 years ago

Honorable people do the right thing even when they personally do not benefit.

Honorable people are not attracted to politics

They sometimes are but they tend to get filtered out at the lowest levels.

Then the answer is no. It’s almost a tautology that career politicians are not honorable.

I know of a couple of very good examples in us politics.

Honourable?

This guy sent helicopters full of swat teams to arrest a single guy - Kim Dotcom. The whole thing was super illegal and almost hilariously over the top. "Almost" because there was nothing amusing about the whole thing. It was ugly

I knew some dodgy things about that guy, but you seem to have more information, care to share? I would be most interested to read it.

Ask his former business partners that he burned and other hackers. This isn't hidden knowledge, you just have to have been around the scene long enough. Part of why he ended up in NZ is because he literally burned everyone he could in Europe. He used to run shell boxes and brag about snooping on his customers and ratting them out to government agencies and shutting down carder rivals. He even used to boast "why would anyone trust me with their data?". This is long before Megaupload.

Kim funded Megaupload largely off of his fraudulent gains on carder forums and a legitimate business that he scammed money off of.

Well, guy is no saint but the way the whole thing was handled speaks volumes. He pissed off powerful people and illegal actions were taken getting him. Apparently that's ok

I didn't say it was okay. I just said that it was funny and that he deserved it.

Kim is the kind of person that deserves to have his asshole tickled with glowing hot metal rods...but that isn't an endorsement if somebody goes and does it.

It's fine to be outraged at the US & NZ governments, but it's not fine to spare the man a shred of sympathy.

Snowden yes. Are you confusing Assange with Snowden?

Yes, misread the OP and thought we were talking about wikileaks and assange as that was the article too.

Why would they have any loyalty towards wikileaks? What is a useful idiot that has outlived it's usefulness?

1. That was way before the advent of smart phones and most technological surveillance techniques.

2. It was fictional.

1. That's it, if you don't use phones for your criminal activities, most modern technological surveillance techniques will not be effective against you.

2. There were a lot of non-fictional organizations that ran just fine without any modern means. Genghis Khan conquered a lot of countries without relying on radio for communications or satellites for reconnaissance. Using a WhatsApp-like chat apps to communicate about criminal activities is very convenient, but opens a new vector of attack against you.

Free to the makers of the device though, it's not like they were charging the manufacturers for paid promotions like an Instagram influencer would - they recommended this device to their associates because they thought this would help them coordinate their activities more efficiently whilst reducing their personal risk.

The phrase "everyday occurrence" does not mean that something literally happens every day, it means that it happens commonly enough that it's not broadly notable.

You derailed this comment thread by quibbling over the specific frequency of these tragic events, rather than focussing on the point - which was that these accidental killings do indeed happen frequently - perhaps more frequently than you realised.

One of Putin's defining characteristics is that he does not leave things to chance. Why wouldn't he use every tool and trick available to him in order to secure his grip on power?

I didn't intend it ... and it looks like I probably shouldn't have gone reminiscing in an HN comment!

HN tends to have waves of (for lack of a better term) "troll hunters" who come here with an attitude that everyone here is commenting in bad faith and must be called out for it. They will do it to commenters from all sides of an argument, even in cases like this where it was clear your comment was simply remembering a past event and not intended to be anything else.

I haven't figured out if they mean well and are just sorely misguided, or are actually trolls themselves here from places like Reddit where such bad faith activity actually happens in every single post.

I'm not in it for the karma and don't worry about being down-voted when I'm writing a thoughtful but perhaps contrary comment. Sometimes (like now) it teaches me that I'm out of step with the "mood" of the commons. That's fine too.

Recognizing a somewhat similar incident from one's own country's history is not at all "whataboutism", especially when there was no obvious intent to diminish the impact of the original subject or otherwise distract from it. Not every comment on a web forum is an attempt to argue or act in bad faith.

An asteroid impact is presumably not a man made disaster though, for the foreseeable future at least.

Now we just need a four letter initialism in order to describe this mechanism. Maybe JUDL? (JSON-based User-Interface Description Language), or if we were to switch the representation to something more SGML-like, maybe UIML (pronounced wee-mull)

JAML, to the tune of XAML.