Your many posts and emails about this are beginning to resemble harassment. We've given you many lengthy explanations and I've deleted dozens of posts at your request. I've spent hours engaging with you about this, answering questions and objections and explaining HN's approach in deep detail.
As I've explained many times in these conversations, we're happy to delete specific posts and to redact identifying information. What we don't allow is wholesale deletion of account history. You disagree with that—you've said so dozens of times—and this has now become repetitive and your behavior has become abusive. Actually, it became abusive months ago, including with surprisingly vicious comments in email. We try give people the benefit of the doubt and cut them slack for as long as we can, but I don't see what else to do at this point but ban your account and ask you to stop.
The misguided idea that there is more than one sense of something being someone’s data, and that thus, some how, the public has eternal right to any comment I make in Hacker News.
As expressed here by Paul Graham
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6813226 and enforced with blind loyalty by Daniel Gackle who repeatedly refuses to delete my stuff instead spending his nights examining and debating the minute details of my words deciding which should or should not be deleted.
If this misguided idea never existed, HN would be like all normal web services, the user would have a delete button and my life would be better.
But, the idea and the power position it allows are here, and my life is changed for the worse.
Two long time friends walk down the street. Sees one something shiny and picks it up. “A gold coin!”. At exactly the same time a bird poops on the second’s head. They are upset. They blame their friend. “If you hadn’t stopped the poop would have missed me”. “Further more”, they say, ”here is the full list of all the bad decisions I made through life and anyone and anything that has ever wronged me and brought me to the shity situation I’m in”. “You included”. “No”, says the first, “Our situation couldn’t have been better”. “Further more here is a list of all the smart decisions I have made and anyone and anything that have supported and elevated me to where I am to day“. Then they looks at their poop covered friend and say ”I do not associate with negative thinkers”. And friends they are no more. End.
Not the same but along these lines, from Greek, to be enthusiastic is literally to be filled with god, if you squint you can recognize the theos in there.
Awareness is not gained with money. Awareness is gained with investment of effort. Pay and investment have older senses of work and outcome. They've come to also apply to money as a proxy for work and outcome, but the origin of the meaning is different.
It is interesting the degrees noted. In Hebrew there's the sense of investing your desire, which goes beyond effort to controlling what it is you want. People will naturally expend effort toward things they desire.
tl;dr: In English awareness is gained with effort (not money). It is a trade.
That's interesting. In the 3 Indian languages that I know, it roughly translates to "devote attention". Not so different from pay I guess, but pay is more transactional compared to devotion, and devotion to something feels more heartfelt than paying for something.
If that's a literal translation (I realize you said "rough"), "devote" connotes to me more along the lines of "devotion" such as a "devoted husband" or "devoted follower of <X> religion."
In Farsi, it roughly translates to "have your senses present" or "gather your senses". It implies your senses can be focused elsewhere, and you need to purposely concentrate them on the issue at hand.
Pay does not necessarily have anything to do with money; it can mean "give" or "bestow upon".
This is what's wrong with applications of Sapir-Whorf -- it's always used to argue for evidence of some preexisting prejudice. If you really want to test it, you'd have to look at a language and make predictions about the people who speak it before meeting them.
Maybe I should post in /r/therewasanattempt/ instead :)
To the point:
1. Obviously the meaning of words change over time.
2. If this difference in metaphors has real bearing on how people act than the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis, at least in its weak form, stands. That is something worth paying attention to....
This is not a good analysis imo. You don't necessarily gain any new awareness by paying attention to something or someone, you gain information. Whether or not you were aware of that information beforehand, or if it is new information has little to do with paying attention except for the fact that you might become bored or uninterested if it's not new information.
And, like another poster pointed out, this information is not gained with money, the "paying" is a metaphor and the currency is your attention itself. You give your attention away for the value of receiving the information.
On top of that there isn't just 1 metaphor in English (and I suspect other languages as well) for even the word "attention". You can fix your attention to something, or direct your attention, we speak of attention spans, etc.
I don't understand this statement: "You don't necessarily gain any new awareness by paying attention to something or someone, you gain information."
How does anyone gain awareness of anything, then? Surely not by ignoring it?
I'd urge you to sit in the forest for a day (or the prairie or the desert -- anyhow, in nature, away from buildings and cars and phones) and pay attention. What do you gain from doing so?
You will find you simply notice different and new things if you spend the time (again, pay/spend... interesting). Perhaps you'll be able to codify this into "information". I'd be interested to see your notes.
This felt like you were pushing a modern usage of "pay" onto an older phrase, so a quick google search of the origin of "pay attention" comes up with this --> https://english.stackexchange.com/a/388607
Agree that "pay" has non-monetary meanings, which are whispered in "pay a visit" or "pay court to". But I just noticed that we say in English both "pay attention" and "spend time". Hm... paying and spending....
In Finnish, one could say "Keskity!" and since "keski" is
"center" it has some idea of centering oneself? But this is more like, "Focus!" Or you could say, "kiinnittää huomiota" -- to fasten your attention?
When the article came to the part about teachers encouraging students to be attentive, I couldn't help but think of a schoolmarm chiding a child to "attend to their lessons."
I guess when I initially wrote I was thinking more from the position "обращайся" which has more interact flavor and made more sense vis a vis attention.
Not sure it’s interesting. But it did become a problem :)
Anyway...
This summer & fall I wrote a JS core lib and a set of compatible packages that together greatly simplify the creation of terminal based node apps and games (in the realm of blessed, blessed-contrib and ink, but with no dependencies and with a novel api/architecture)
I got into it because my son did this node project where an animated car drove in a forest of cellular automata generated trees. Yah. You read it right. Things spiraled from there...
It is not a small project and it is pretty close to release form. I’ve used the lib and components to write a couple of small but non-trivial things. So, yes, it works.
In December, though, I stopped actively working on it. There are various reasons. One of which is that there is snow on the mountains. There are other reasons, none of which is code related.
> As in Minimum wage should be raised to meet the Median.
My concern is it could lead to run away inflation unless there were controls to ensure the costs to rebalance things didn't just passed along to those at the bottom anyway.
Inflation is a concern though the last two decades have shown that the fear may be overrated. In any case, nothing is worse for inflation than UBI and people talk about that seriously...
P.S - After reading more into this idea I think that setting high ratio goal of Minimum-to-Median (75%???) might be a direction worth exploring... we have an excellent, proactive provincial government in BC, maybe I’ll go look for the suggestion box...
