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Actually the systemd guys looked at upstart for redhat in the beginning, but choose to rewrite it anyway. That had nothing to do with the Canonical entanglement though.

Though I dislike Unity and Mir, I think RedHats understanding of "Open" Source is a lot more disturbing.. https://lwn.net/Articles/432012


That had everything to do with Canonical entanglement. Canonical would only accept patches to upstart with a contributor agreement allowing Canonical relicensing rights. This made it very difficult for outside contributors to work on upstart (especially redhat funded ones) and that led to resources being made available for investigating what would become systemd and friends.


RHEL 6 (and CentOS 6 by extension) use Upstart: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upstart#Adoption

Not that I disagree with your comments on Red Hat, but let's get our facts right.


RHEL6 starts upstarts, but doesn't make use of any of the functionality. Everything is sysvinit scripts and zero (upstart) jobs. I was administrating a few RHEL6 machines and had to read elsewhere about the change to even notice it.

The person you responded to is correct though; a large factor in starting systemd was the CLA of Upstart. Above even highlights this; you cannot really say that RHEL6 used upstart in any way.


I guess it depends on how you look at it. It uses upstart to start all the sysvinit scripts, no? I know you can create upstart jobs and they'll get started, I've done that. But you're right, it doesn't make "real" use of upstart, in a sense.


Nobody prefers flash for video streaming. Not one person on the planet.


Okay, you won the internet for today!


I just bought stamps (haven’t sent a letter in years, and they don’t seem to have fax) to send them the Cease & Desist in mail, too.

Let’s see what’s going to happen, if they don’t react at all, I can still go down the legal path.


In the face on inaceptable laws and regulations it can't be helped. We can't just wipe any political discourse with this sentence.


I hear your words and all I can conclude is: What a _great_ ruling. Seriously.

Decentralization is a major thing we need right now. Also: the EU gov. agencies are very unlike the US ones in that we have a political power over them.


Well that's bad timing but really, this sort of news is a good thing. No software is perfect and now they can improve upon these findings. Password Managers are still a very valid technology. Better then Firefox/Chromes integrated plain text login stores or using the same password everywhere.

Though, IMO, a password manager which uploads all your password onto a central location with thousands upon thousands of other peoples password is just a really damn stupid idea to begin with.. Even if it's encrypted or whatever.


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