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i heard China called America a big dummy


it's not colonial


No? Who is doing the killing in Ukraine right now? A lot of them don't look Slav to me at all. Russia has built the definition of an imperial army. Once I see the moscovites dying in droves for more territory (9 time zones is never enough), we can talk more.


The non-Slavs in the army are more likely to be picked up by the media because of racist attitudes, both in Russia and, apparently, in Ukraine. There's even a common slur for them, "бойові буряти"/"боевые буряты", meaning "combat Buryats".


exactly, Ukraine now, Ukraine back in the days, Chechnya, you name it.


totally sane reply


Take a look at Russia's eastward expansion in the 18th and 19th century.


yes and as we know nothing has changed since then


> it's not colonial

What a lazy answer! for sure, it is colonial. During the imperial time, during soviet time and now in the east of Ukraine. In all periods, Russia tried to destroy the local population/settlements and tried to build Cossak/Russian defense lines.

Reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_imperialism


the Soviets liberated those colonised under the tsarists


If by liberated you mean killed 10s of millions and forced erased cultures and languages sure


no i dont



as they are liberating Ukraine right now from Nazis.. right.


because a famine has never occured before in the history of civilisation


You have to admit, a famine in the region’s foremost exporter of grain, whose main export of that year was grain, takes spectacular mismanagement and neglect. That’s Soviet industrialization for you. I have to admit the genocide part makes no sense to me, though—I’ve seen no evidence that it was in any way targeted at Ukrainians specifically, only that they constituted a huge portion of the agricultural population at the time.

You don’t have to look that hard to find actual displaced peoples—the way the Russian Empire burned down all of Ossetia, the way Stalin ejected most of the population of Chechnya after that, the way Crimean Tatars constituted the bulk of the population in the Crimean peninsula and then suddenly Russians and Ukrainians did for some reason—there’s plenty. (If you really want to get into the history, care to find some speakers of the North Slavic languages for me?) It’s that the example does not seem to be a good one.


it was collectivisation not industrialisation, there were droughts in Ukraine 3 years in a row, there was an epidemic, the kulaks were sabotaging farming


I meant industrialization as a general government direction, not as an official Party policy buzzword: the Soviet state just did not care about the agricultural population except as a potential source of workers for the industry. The droughts and the epidemic still did not stop the grain exports (again, the main source of income for the state before, during, and after the famine, even per the official statistics) or affect the food supply in the cities all that much. The amounts an agricultural worker could legally leave for themselves were below subsistence, for years both before and after the war—steal (“steal”), escape to the city, or die.

The last part is so much bullshit thst it isn’t even really worth considering. (Every sentence in the whole of official Soviet history that includes the word kulak is bullshit.)


do you expect a serious response



did you enjoy the latest marvel movie


>Since 2006, the Holodomor has been recognized by the European Parliament,[4][32] Ukraine[33] alongside 22 countries, as a genocide against the Ukrainian people carried out by the Soviet regime.[34]


now do the bit about academic debate


Please enlighten us then.


you want me to explain a section of a Wikipedia article to you?


the CHINESE are INVADING with their BALLOONS and PARTY POPPERS


To be fair, if you were having a balloon war, China would be #1.


if my girlfriend texted me >I'll be home. I'd assume she was breaking up with me


not sure that meshes well with the deities of profit and wealth


I don't see a reason why it would not be commercially exploitable either. Trade and commerce is part of any human community


Activities have increasingly become profit focused. Not sure why friends couldn’t also be.


It's already a reality for dating. Ask the likes of Tinder. Still it didn't become any better.


tinder's business goal aligns with people coming back to "try again" forever


word soup to advocate for exploitative work environments


"Please don't post shallow dismissals"


it deserves nothing better


ive seen people that haven't so your point is invalid



>SOURCE: RADIO FREE ASIA, LIBERTY TIMES


I.E. US State Department


So to clarify, what's your issue here? Do you think they weren't executed? Or is it that you think executing them is totally normal and cool?


Radio Free Asia has repeatedly put out exaggerated or sensational claims about North Korea, at least some of which have turned out to be false. Nobody is endorsing NK, executions, etc.


Can you list an example? Not that I don’t believe you, but RFA why biased is nevertheless boring and often not known for clickbait.


If you were to believe them, Kim ate too much cheese and it forced him to disappear, and he died several times. Also he killed an uncle with an anti-aircraft gun, and he reappeared, so he fed him to dogs, then he reappeared again. (These are things they literally reported)

Anyone who enjoys their reporting may also have an interest in Weekly World News.


Believe who? Dept of State? Dare to share references to the DoS-sourced articles you mention?


> Believe who?

I think they’re referring to Radio Free Asia.


The issue is that Radio Free Asia isn't a trustworthy source.


Source?


One classic example is this

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rfa.org/english/news/korea/...

And the fact that it's US sponsored media targeted against an ideological enemy


They weren't executed.


Source?


I think since your coming here with the extradentary claim the burden of proof really lands on you.


I'm glad you specified in your first comment on this site that you're not CIA otherwise I would have been suspicious.


Most of these news coming out of north Korea are eventually proven fake. Not condoning NK but most stories are just exaggerated nonsense

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shin_Dong-hyuk

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/13/why-do-north-k...


Ministry of Truth™


So because two sources you have a problem with contributed to the story it never happened, right?


yes


Yes I can guarantee it never happened. Most tabloids keep publishing these click bait because they keep getting... Clicks.

Brb spinning up some blogs about north Korea


imagine if someone linked me your comment and i deduced that hackernews was just low effort old people complaining about things


You wouldn't be wrong.


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