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This is super obvious and software developers who use open source tend to always think that open source software is the solution.

Sometimes it’s an economics problem. Problems need incentives before they can be solved.


Because it helps save humans


And? Ancient Egyptians thought slavery was good because it helped Ancient Egyptians - "of course its good, just ask any beneficiary".


It’s aaactually a verb as in - Lego my stuff, asshole!


That’s just simple economics - if they’re willing to settle for a noble job even if they get paid less then they’ll get paid less on average



Oh wow, and the offender is now living freely since 2017. Good to know.


Wait WHAT


The offender was found to be not criminally responsible due to extreme mental health problem, was put into secure treatment for long time, and eventually considered safe to be in society. Locking him up further would be purely revenge not justice.


7 years is not long for beheading, defiling, and cannibalizing a stranger on a bus


It's long in the context of how much mental health treatment they can have provided him over that time.

If 7 years is how long it took to be sure he wouldn't reoffend, why go longer? It would be a waste of taxpayer money, it would worsen his life for no benefit, it wouldn't solve anything for society, and it wouldn't even be useful as a deterrent because I'm pretty sure he wasn't thinking about ROI of crime vs. potential punishment when committing the crime considering he believed God was ordering him to do it, and he didn't deny having done it.

If mental health treatment were so far advanced that his problems could have been 100% cured within a month, I would have supported his being released after a month.


> it would worsen his life for no benefit

Why are we talking about benefits for a person that beheaded and ATE someone?


Because we're Canadians, and that is the mentality that we take, as surprising as that might be to other cultures, we're not particularly vengeful people, and especially so in the context of mental health.


It wouldn't bring any benefit to anyone (except maybe private prison companies).

And also it's because he's still a person. A person who did a terrible thing while literally insane, but still a person.


Letting him out definitely won't benefit society. The recidivism for "mentally insane" convicts is extremely high.

It feels good, but it's like letting a drunk driver get back behind the wheel after they show remorse. The chances that they get in another DWI (and hurt someone) is high.

It's also why we have sex offender registries. The recidivism is high.


I'd love to read the papers you've consumed that lead you to this consultation if you have them handy. A lot of what we see in Canada is in fact the exact opposite in the context of mental health, so I'm very curious to know where you formed this opinion from.


Jesus christ


The problem with the last mile is that there’s a lot of them. Even more if you’re in suburbia, where the number of people living in the last mile is comparable to people living in the last block or so in the city.


Out of my 4 spots, 2 are urban and 2 are suburban. I’ve had a great suburban experience, 1 bad. Both urban were really good.

It seems like suburban mail delivery should be easy to predict and factor into cost.


Yet another reason why suburbia is expensive and not sustainable https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVUeqxXwCA0


> This is where Americans go to vacation then return to their depressingly soul-crushingly dystopian car dependent suburbs

This video probably isn't the best source to build a persuasive argument from.


Yeah, remaking society seems like a just and scaleable solution


You don't have to remake the whole of society. Just stop making more of the bits that don't work.


As simple as that huh? Wonder why that hasn't been tried before.


Ladies and gentlemen I present Sunk Cost Mentality.


Yep, such costs such as the freedom to choose not to live in some utopian urban beehive. Find a better solution.


It’s going to be real funny if non Apple users are basically fair game for AirTags tracking and you have to get an iPhone to protect yourself from AirStalking


Apparently they can be disabled with any NFC enabled device: https://apple.com/newsroom/2021/04/apple-introduces-airtag/

>[...] And even if users don’t have an iOS device, an AirTag separated from its owner for an extended period of time will play a sound when moved to draw attention to it. If a user detects an unknown AirTag, they can tap it with their iPhone or NFC-capable device and instructions will guide them to disable the unknown AirTag.

It is better supported on iPhones, but that's acceptable:

>iOS devices can also detect an AirTag that isn’t with its owner, and notify the user if an unknown AirTag is seen to be traveling with them from place to place over time.

I'd like this detection to come in stock Android, similar to how the Contact Tracing thing was shared b/w Apple/Google.


> I'd like this detection to come in stock Android, similar to how the Contact Tracing thing was shared b/w Apple/Google.

This would be an ideal scenario, even if it took longer to roll out for Android phones thanks to the OS fragmentation

Even if that's not happening, I think its not entirely unreasonable for some reliable third party app to pop up an make disabling the AirTags with an Android device almost as easy as an iPhone.


... and if all else fails, you can always whack it with a hammer a few times. Or just take its battery out.


I’m assuming that instructions to disable the AirTag are basically instructions for how to take off the battery.


You can already purchase a huge range of items that do exactly what an airtag does. Everyone is already fair game for this type of stalking, it is silly to try and paint apple in a bad light here.


How many of these third party devices can use every iPhone, iPad and more in the world as a beacon?


Tile uses everyone with the tile app installed. It's not the same by sheer numbers, but it's more than enough that if someone slips a tile tracker on you they will know where you're at. Or, if someone wants to spend a bit more money, not even much more, they can buy a full GPS tracker that doesn't need anything to report on it. Apple isn't coming out with some groundbreaking spy tech here, this is very routine stuff thats been in a small format forever. And guess what, none of the existing ones do anything to alert anyone of stalking, unlike Apple. I don't even like Apple but this is silly.


    Tile uses everyone with the tile app installed. 
    It's not the same by sheer numbers
It's not Apple's "fault" they're more popular but the end result is that these AirTags are orders of magnitude more potentially dangerous thanks the fact that there are orders of magnitude more iDevice users than Tile app users.

Imagine I'm some kind of creep looking for victims in a club or whatever. I'm planning to accomplish this by dropping Tiles into their bags.

Statistically, how many Tiles would I need to buy and sneak onto persons in order to have a reasonable chance of snaring a victim who just happens to have the Tile app installed? 50? 100? 1000? Not impossible, but not particularly feasible.

How many AirTags would I need to sneak onto victims? Perhaps only one, if they happen to use their phone in public and I see it's from Apple -- that's something I can tell at a glance, unlike wondering if they have the Tile app installed.


not to mention tile does it without notifying iphones of airtags or the beep when moved.


They don't need to? GSM radios have gotten tiny. Think literally any innocuous item and it can be fitted with a tracker.

Even a hairbrush: http://www.mccalltech.net/images/0TrackBrush.jpg


The limitation of any tracker is battery lifetime. The AirTag circumvents this by only using low power transmission and the network of all iPhones and iPads in the world, which then relay via their own wifi/4G.

What is certain is that we'll see sophisticated modifications to AirTags that (1) disable the beep, (2) disable anti-stalking.

Theoretically remote attestation and self-disabling anti-tamper could be used, but the potential wins for bypassing the Apple protocol are enormous, the Holy Grail of surveillance espionage.


"Holy Grail of surveillance espionage"... maybe the holy grail alarmist statements.

Why are firmware modifications for this "certain" first off?

And what modifications allow this to work as designed without setting off anti-stalking? If you somehow change the ID it's reporting which afaik is a signed value anyways, how are you going to get access to it's location?

If you don't disable anti-stalking then this is no better than run of the mill GPS trackers which can already run for days to weeks


Nation state attacks are certain because of the massive payoff if they are successful. Were you asleep when the Snowdon NSA leaks happened? [1]

If you can change the ID you can cycle through a list of valid IDs. You can even use it for bit rate comms, ~16 bits an hour or something, which is enough to signal events like "number of iDevices in vicinity", or, if other hardware is used, step count/hour, which works even in GPS denied environments.

The beacon location reported by Find My is generated by the reporting phones' GPS/cellular/wifi location system.

Regular GPS trackers have no means to exfil their data. They don't work in GPS denied environments (poor inside buildings, underground, anywhere a $20 jammer is enabled). OCGs routinely use low power GPS jammers now. Using GPS or 3G requires much more energy, and 3G is easily detected by motivated groups.

So while it might not be great for stalking your partner/ex, it is very tempting for professionals.

[1] https://nsa.gov1.info/dni/nsa-ant-catalog/


"Were you asleep when the Edward Snowden leak happened"

... yeah I'm not going to play this game.

Nation states are certainly doing better than AirTags if that's what you're worried about Secret Agent.

Passive trackers will let you pinpoint someone indefinitely.

And someone motivated is going to catch your spurious 3G emissions but miss an AirTag literally designed to be noticable?

Puhlease. If a nation state is chasing you and this is what turns the tides I strongly suggest turning yourself into their embassy now, save yourself the trouble.


You claimed that no one would go to the effort. It is clear that they will.

Nation states don't have a global network of iPhones.

> Passive trackers will let you pinpoint someone indefinitely.

How?

> Puhlease. If a nation state is chasing you and this is what turns the tides I strongly suggest turning yourself into their embassy now, save yourself the trouble.

"Puhlease" enjoy pretending that nation states are all IDF 8200 elite cyber hackers. The future ubiquity and deniability of these devices will see them feature widely. And some people do need to defend against skilled attackers who can buy custom gear from Shenzhen, and telling them to give up is stupid.


>How?

If an actual nation state is out to get you what's so difficult about tracking you from half a mile away? Surely they're not chasing someone who's actively evading them since you think this person won't find an... AirTag. Something that's actively transmitting at regular intervals and has NFC capabilities.

https://marshallradio.com/ww/product/field-marshall-digital-...

> Adding a Field Marshall UHF to your GPS system allows you to precisely locate the transmitter inside GPS denied environments (inside a building, or locate the signals when GPS satellites are blocked), or when the transmitter is in thick cover.

Or attaching a GPS tracker that logs to it's internal storage that they then recover?

> enjoy pretending that nation states are all IDF 8200 elite cyber hackers

You can't even stay internally consistent to your own fantasy. First you're saying these people will crack Apple's state-of-the-art firmware systems on a brand new platform and signing arrangements to boot, now suddenly they're script kiddies?

And honestly it's disgusting how shameless you are about shoving words in my mouth "telling them to give up" where the fuck did I say that?

Go find something useful to do kid.


I personally don't think anyone is fair game for stalking and this device lowering the barrier to entry should be discussed, and discussing it shouldn't get the kneejerk reaction that they're being painted in a bad light. There are plenty of questions here like:

- How does the anti stalking alert in apartment buildings or people frequently in close proximity for long periods of time?

- Since they considered that this is a risk in the first place then are non Apple users are risk here too? Did they provide appropriate mitigations for them as well?

- What's the future for the Find My network? It would be interesting to standardize and allow for more interoperability in the Find My network.


How is this lowering the barrier? I bought a orbit for my keys that does exactly what this does, for cheaper, like 3 years ago. I would actually say nothing apple does about using this for stalking is useful in the least, because if someone wants to stalk you they can get one of a dozen devices, for cheaper, that would be better because they're not a obvious white and silver apple branded monogrammed thing. Noones at risk, because everyone already was, apple users included. As for the future of it, I think there's already a bike company building the find my system into their bikes, so probably anything high theft could make its way onto a network like this.


Orbit only works with bluetooth on your phone, not the entire Find My network. Additionally, I think it's a fallacy to say that it's fine for Apple to not consider the risks because some other products didn't consider the risks.


Error correcting karma


Working together isn’t fun when we’re all out of a job because the factory moved to another country


Don't blame your co-workers. Blame those that made the decision to move the factory (board of directors)


Payoffs for a short position is stock price right now minus stock price at maturity. You can make a synthetic short by longing a put and writing a call at the same strike price and the problem you see here with the short squeeze is really writing the call.


Thank you. But those short calls are not in 13F, so they can selectively disclose?


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