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I think in a ideal world your right.

I think a problem is that math seems like a deeply toxic, ego driven domain.

I think he argued that e.g because the navier stokes millennium problem ist considered solved now, you won't get any recognition for being the first human to solve.(How would you even proof you solved it yourself and not just regurgitated the ai proof?)

And since recognition is the main objective, noone would spend time on dissecting the proof, and perhaps finding some unique approach to solving the problem, that could be transferred to other open issues.

And therefore the problem is now "poisoned". Since it's assumed to be solved noone will research it, and the potential revelations won't be found


To be fair I'd hope during peer review this would be apparent.

During your write up, I'd imagine you would check it's not already out there too. And once complete it's cheap and easy to run it through an LLM and ask is this covered by anything else out there. If its novel and not published it doesn't matter what others say.

Research is already messy as it stands. Something new can already be dismissed by incumbents as "not novel enough" especially in niche fields where they're likely to be the ones conducting peer review.


Would that be a bad thing?

While top AI labs no longer focus on chess, the community build way better chess engines.

Stockfish is probably stronger, than everything the top labs build.

Wouldn't we expect the same thing for math? That slowly the broader math community would engineer a harness/program... That will surpass the current labs, and be a community ran project


Yeah its certainly true now that Stockfish is much stronger than alphazero, but it's probably also true that had Deepmind spent another few years working on alphazero it would be enormously stronger than either.

In the case of chess this seems fine, there isn't much value to society in creating an AI capable of beating top humans with a 4 pawn handicap rather than a 2 pawn one, but for maths where there are actual applications it is more complicated.


But arguably - it's better for chess community that the best engines are opensource than having superior GoogleChessBot.


Id guess if it returns the exact same system prompt, multiple times when you ask slightly different, it's a good indicator it's real


I agree to you, when it's in person. I think what your describing is mostly the beginning of an answer.

Just randoms "um" inbetween because your struggling to build sentences can get annoying both in person and online


Just sit there in silence whilst you cogitate.


this is the move


Space fillers are sadly important for group settings where you need to finish a thought before someone interjects.

But hearing them from an interviewee drives me crazy, along with "sort of", "kind of", etc. I once counted all of the "sorta"s in an NPR interview, it was brutal.


"Ummm, I think I agree with this description" vs "I, think, umm, I agree with, umm, this description"

The first one indicates something along the lines of "thinking, please stand by". The second one is a struggle.


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