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Canadian here.

Can you imagine how unreasonable this sounds for any other rights?

Try the right to protest: "It's the responsibility of the bandana industry to regulate all protests, and since they have abrogated that responsibility, protestors must forfeit those rights."


Rights are granted by society because they choose to do so. It's a deal. Anyway, answered in more detail elsewhere in the thread.


It’s not a “deal”. Society didn’t make a wager with some governmental body for free speech, contingent on free speech organizations policing undesirable speech.

The deal metaphor breaks down pretty clearly. If advocates of democracy don’t do enough to curtail voter fraud, society cancels the right to vote? If the auto lobby doesn’t figure out a solution for vehicle deaths, we stop building paved roads? Society as a whole is responsible for finding a way to respect granted rights and balance the risks of exercise of those rights; it’s not incumbent on specific groups to own that, just because they exercise that right.


Speech legislation, including the US constitution, was constructed as a result of deliberation and political horse trading. That’s particularly true of the amendments.

On free speech particularly, what constitutes free speech and what speech is controlled or banned is constantly under review. Free speech advocates exist precisely because of this. If there was no issue around free speech there would be no need for advocates.

Laws around voter fraud are constantly under review. Cancelling all voting is not the only way to address electoral problems. Similarly banning all guns doesn’t have to be the only way to prevent frequent mass shootings.

Or is it? I really don’t know. You tell me. Just as electoral reformers are constantly addressing issues of democracy. As free speech advocates are constantly fighting for open discourse, why shouldn’t gun owners have to argue for and justify their privileges?

So what solution to mass killings and gun deaths do you propose? Just like anyone else exercising a right, you can legitimately be expected to justify it. Please do so.


Please stop equating rights with privileges.


THANK YOU!


You are welcome


Don't ask for resources - ask for advice.


Interesting, I'd love to hear more in-depth how to approach this since I'm new to this. Thanks!


I guess this makes it pretty clear why we don't have a glut of competent math teachers: Anyone who could do the job would recognize it isn't worth it.


Holy shit!

Thank you for writing this.

The real question is: Why is the school system + culture producing such a bumper crop of sociopaths?

Is the belief that erasing problem people is a real solution to systemic and structural violence the root of the problem?


Yes.

An aspiring head of state that desires personal access to the state's funds will prefer accounting practices that are irregular, and will outlaw whistleblowing on these practices.

You may wish to be a noble ruler, setting just institutions and regulations for the smooth operation of society. A petty ruler would wish to enrich themselves and their friends and not worry about the consequences.


I look forward to seeing what we learn from urbit ten years from now. 0=true? Crazy sigils, three ways?

I just went back to their website to remember the special name they used for distributed computation, and they have introduced /even more new words and layers!/ Godspeed, you.


This sounds super fun! You're not in Toronto, are you?


Agreed, however am in Los Angeles. Would recommend remote but this type of thing might be better in person. Perhaps each city can create their own. Even in LA there'd probably need to be a group in each part of town, like west, downtown, and/or Pasadena.


I am interested in joining a group in the LA area. How can we make this happen?


I'm game location-wise from about Hollywood to DTLA, however not in a hiring position right now. Will be looking for a gig of my own shortly as my current contract finishes.

Let me think about it a bit.


Dear Thomas,

Never change.

Sincerely, Your fans


Disgusting that people would downvote this!

If we allow this to become normal, we'll regret it.


This mantra can be used to attack anybody for any reason, as long as you call them "evil." It's a road you can go down, but I wouldn't.


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