Buried lede: Fastmail is using AI-generated code / words / decision-making systems, just like everyone else and following the same meaningless "principles" as everyone else.
> For our staff, we encourage understanding the tools that exist in the world, and how to use them safely. Our policy makes it clear that any use of tools, including tools with AI in them, must follow clear privacy-preserving principles:
Data Protection: All data protection, confidentiality, and privacy policies must be followed (our vendors for things like anti-abuse and support are moving towards using AI for translation, categorization, abuse detection – and we are ensuring that their policies continue to provide protection for our customers)
Accountability for work: Any AI generated writing or code must be reviewed and understood by a human being, and go through our regular second-set-of-eyes processes before being used
Bias awareness: Actively look for biases or hallucinations in AI output
Human authority: Always have a path for appeal to a human from any decision that is made by automated tools
It's not being blacklisted or censored (see other comment with link to submissions).
My suspicion: it's not relevant to the HN audience. DF is opinion pieces (mostly) about Apple. While I'm sure many DF readers use some Apple device(s), I suspect many (most?) DF readers do not care about "inside baseball"[0] for Apple.
A 'bombshell' to me would include some original journalism, details we weren't otherwise aware of. I read that article, it is basically an essay about a guy realizing that the pedestal he puts Apple on may need some recalibration, just because their AI product sucks. Apple Maps in 2011 sucked too, the company is not immune to putting out crap.
100%. But if Gruber/Daringfireball are even shown for a split second, there's a kneejerk reaction to flag it before the flagger even often reads it. It's a shame.
This is it for me. I've been using macs since 1985 (!) but I just don't think that blog is very interesting. From what I've seen, you're right that it's mostly Apple "inside baseball" and I just don't care.
Don’t ask them. The only one who can give you a sure answer is @dang .
My guess is that HN users flag the hell out of DF submissions for whatever reason, and that causes the so-called graylisting. But again only @dang can give you a straight answer.
If you prefer email, Dan can be reached at [email protected]. He seems like a friendly guy.
Have you considered the possibility that the world has changed after 2020, and there's more to discuss re: technology and society than whatever Apple is up to? We've had Covid, meme stocks, Jan 6th, Huawei bans, Ukraine, NFTs, stablecoin collapses, Twitter takeover, AI everything, Chinese EVs, Tiktok ban....this list goes on.
the content in the blog is yours, no? So people posting things that would cause flame wars from your domain is still your responsibility? At some point people stop engaging to disagree and start to flag. Your karma doesn't reflect the score expected from the blogger behind the top #3 website of HN. This should tell us something.
Supporting a monopoly like Apple will sure attract a lot of detractors in a forum named "hacker news". The same would happen to Microsoft supporters 20 years ago.
> Your karma doesn't reflect the score expected from the blogger behind the top #3 website of HN. This should tell us something.
Karma's a reflection of how much someone uses HN. Glancing at his account, it looks like he has never submitted anything before this article, and almost never comments. That account having low karma doesn't really tell us anything about him, beyond that he's not a HN regular.
> For our staff, we encourage understanding the tools that exist in the world, and how to use them safely. Our policy makes it clear that any use of tools, including tools with AI in them, must follow clear privacy-preserving principles: