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Lol I can't imagine the amount of effort it takes to convince yourself of this thought process.

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What rules did I break? I'm confused.

Edit: Ah ok an IP ban. I guess time to use a proxy. Moderation has rules. Censorship does not.

Censorship is bad dang mmmkay?

Editing again to post later cause you nuked replies for some reason:

Sorry I don't conduct in personal attacks. I think you're confused. Feel free to list whom I attacked and where.

No, censorship doesn't change definitions based on who uses it. Unless you want to pretend like you're not censoring. You seem to have convinced yourself that your censorship is a form of moderation, very sad. You're free to censor whom and what you want, it's your site. Don't pretend it's moderation though.

Your guidelines are meaningless if censorship is so heavy handed and moderation non-existant. It's hard to moderate. It's easy to censor.

Anyway you have curated, through censorship, a place where people are afraid to share valid opinions that break no guidelines (except those magical ones you can produce in order to censor). You can congratulate yourself on that if you want. You've got a ghost town, whether you like it or not.


An entire thwack of personal attacks, for starters. Not allowed here. I don't think that's so confusing.

> Censorship is bad dang mmmkay?

It's one of those words that mean different things depending on how people want to use it. I wouldn't personally use that word as opposed to moderation, curation, etc., but then I would say that wouldn't I. In any case, HN isn't an anything-goes site and never has been. If we didn't do some version of moderation/curation/censorship/befugioning, it would be an entirely different place. Probably not one even you would enjoy—I don't suppose you like ghost towns or scorched earth any more than the rest of us.


Unfortunately, I can imagine the ignorant Americans who don’t realize that all those poor people want SUVs too. You know who doesn’t talk about climate change? Anybody in my family in Bangladesh. They want to live like Americans.

You sound very uneducated or just prefer to be ignorant.

There's a few reasons why China has more CO2 than the rest of the world. Do you want them or are you ignoring them? In plain:

- more people

- more productivity/development

- more exports on processed goods

Even children can understand these points.


I'm surprised people are forgetting that the person who predicted the coming wars against his personality was himself. He basically told everyone what was coming... then it came and people still fell for it.

Elon is a loser socially and that's about it.


DOGE and the nazi sale happened. That's not just problematic social media posting.

DOGE promised the world and delivered small wins. The normal politician does this and does not deliver a single win.

And people hate politicians

There exists a huge amount of Musk derangement syndrome these days.

Elon Musk is a great businessman and develops great products for general consumers. There is not much wrong with him other than his online persona... which most normal people can ignore. He's probably more normal than any other business leader.

What's weird is people lumping in some of Elon's actions with falls in Tesla sales as if he didn't:

1. Predict it

2. Gift the whole world the motivation to do it

I don't care about Elon Musk. He's a good businessman and a weird personality. But it doesn't take a genius to realise that he can't lead a winning product unchallenged, forever.


Elon Musk is a fascist sympathizer who is currently being investigated in at least one European country for election interference, a known lier who has promised level 5 self driving by the end of the year every year since 2018 or so, landing people on Mars by next year since 2022, Tesla electric truck cheaper than rail, "today", in 2020, and many others.

>Elon Musk is a great businessman and develops great products for general consumers.

The only thing he's great at is creating the illusion of genius.

He didn't found Tesla, despite his title. He's not an engineer at SpaceX, despite his title. He spent 44 billion on Twitter which is most certainly losing money hand over fist. The Boring Company is a flop. Tesla is famously anything but a car company because their cars are mediocre in every way except the battery range.

SpaceX is his only real success, but then again SpaceX only succeeded because of massive government funding, which Elon would happily decry as communism if the money went to anyone else.

He's not a genius and not a particularly good businessman. He's just a normie with Daddy's emerald mine money, who got lucky with a large severance package when he was fired from Paypal for being terrible, and now uses his wealth to create a cult of personality.


> Tesla is famously anything but a car company because their cars are mediocre in every way except the battery range

I can't say that I'm a big fan of this guy... But I can tell you this: I learned to drive only after moving to the U.S. recently, and when I had to choose my first car, I found Tesla to be the best among many I tried. It's just awesome, and I don't even use their FSD, the car itself is superb (at least the latest "3"). Minimalistic, no BS, drives well, quiet, comfortable. The same feeling I had with the first iPhone, compared to other phones.


>There is not much wrong with him other than his online persona

What about his support of Trump, his direct involvement with the US government via Doge, and lying about widespread election fraud?


A vegan cheeseburger isn't a cheeseburger.

That's why it's called vegan cheeseburger and not cheeseburger! A toy car isn't a car, a step dad isn't a dad and an e book isn't a book, are they ?

A cheeseburger with neither beef nor cheese is not a cheeseburger.

A vegan sandwich would be right.

Do you also call a caesar salad a salad cheeseburger?


That’s right! And the vegan cheeseburger cited above is made with vegan cheese and vegan hamburger.

You act like this wasn't just the same as it has always been.

It's always been cycles of cheap production and then human created demand or catastrophes to reduce supply and increase prices back up again.


Would that include free use LLMs. I assume getting into something would be tricky if you are assuming they're going to drop several hundreds of tokens a month on it.

I feel like the tendency for people to assume others have nearly $500 or so of credits on their AI to blow every month is kinda crazy.

Reminds me of the "just get Netflix, Prime, etc." ending up with a $100/m bill.


> Would that include free use LLMs.

I can't comment on the self-hosted models but if they support tool calling / MCP then it should work. How well may be a function of model size/arch/quant ... etc though.

> I feel like the tendency for people to assume others have nearly $500 or so of credits on their AI to blow every month is kinda crazy.

My use is hobby level so $20/mo chatGPT sub is enough. I do hit my 5hr limits on a regular-ish interval but that's usually a sign that I need to step away from the work anyways.


No there hasn't.

Wait until you see how cars are made now.

Comparing it to other products made by machines that actually have reduced in price since 1995 like kettles, LED lights, pc components, peripherals.

Cars should be far cheaper but they're not, and that's on purpose.


What, you weren't alive when the last mass extinction event occurred? Why didn't you communicate or at least write the last handful down or something? Aren't you smarter than a chicken?

It's funny that you think we know what happened to humans anymore than a chicken knows what happened to chickens.


Look that’s the thing: we know about mass extinction events. So we can use these to extrapolate.

A 10+ kilometer wide asteroid will most likely cause global mass extinction, by blocking sunlight and collapsing ecosystems. That’s how the dinosaurs were wiped out 66 million years ago.

Such events are estimated to occur roughly once every 100-200 million years. That’s not fiction that’s science. If we get hit by one of these we’re probably gonna all die.

But we never had a robot revolution. That’s why anything about it belongs in the realm of fiction.


That's the whole point of the Turkey illusion. From the Turkey's point of view, it is safe and fed. It has never witnessed other Turkeys being killed, it has never been killed before.

If you are the turkey, it's difficult to predict your death and all the available evidence appears to support the hypothesis that you will not be suddenly slaughtered. If you are a very smart turkey, you might notice that the farmer is sharpening his knives the day before, and reach a strange hypothesis, but generally if you are the turkey, you don't know you are the turkey.

We are in a situation where we have never gone extinct before, never faced a threat like this before. It's difficult to know if we are in the same position as the turkey.


please refer to my other comment here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46974245

We think we know. But we don't.

Chickens think they know. But they don't.


Bold of you to assume people will be writing in any form in the future. Writing will be gone, like the radio and replaced with speaking. Star Trek did have it right there.

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