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> Except for white people, which is why the parent is worried about character assassination.

This just isn't true. White people hold incredible advantages in modern society. Especially white men. When people ask you to express empathy & are bitterly frustrated when most refuse, they lash out. But that lashing shouldn't be surprising.

One need only look at how the police would treat you if you ran from them vs. the many highly publicized (but hardly unique or isolated) cases where police officers acted outrageously against people of color in the US.

> The pendulum swings one way for a little while, then it swings the other way.

Sorry, but this is wrong. The world is consistently more progressive and permissive over time. We certainly have had major reversals of this in history, but these never recover to quite the same level of conservatism.

And quite frankly, we all have agency in this. We can change the world for the better, if we act in concert. The sum of individual actions is our society, and the sum of societal actions is the arc of history. So stop acting like it's inevitable.



White people hold incredible advantages in modern society.

Not anymore. There was a white man recently who could only get his work published by using an Asian pen name. Look at all of the white men who have had their careers destroyed by the mere allegation of sexism, racism or homophobia, the scarlet letters of your so called "progressiveism". Just ask Pax Dickinson, Brendan Eich or Brad Wardell.

The world is consistently more progressive and permissive over time.

This is easily disproved if you knew even a little world history. Any time a civilization gets significant wealth and comfort, it becomes more progressive. That progressivism in turns creates its downfall, after which wealth becomes scarce and the people become more conservative again. Round and round it goes since the creation of Babylon. The Roman Empire followed this cycle, until it was sacked by the Visigoths. It was followed by the dark ages. Then came the renaissance and its progress, followed by the stark conservatism of the Victorian era. We just finished a long upswing. The pendulum has already started swinging back towards conservatism.

Technology continues to progress. Humanity and its flawed ideologies follow predictable cycles.


Yeah Pax Dickenson had his career unfairly ruined by baseless allegations of sexism and racism? Brendan Eich's entire career was ruined?

Come on.


Your lack of empathy is telling.


Mostly because Pax never denied the "allegations" and in fact doubled down on his racism and sexism, resulting in a pretty well-earned backlash.

As for Eich, his career and finances remain intact. He received censure for doing his job poorly, his career wasn't over.


What do you know of my "intact" career or finances, pray tell? As far as I know, you don't know me or anything about what I'm doing for a living, or what my finances look like.

Lying by implication is still lying, and _tu quoque_ is no defense. So @PopeOfNope said "careers destroyed", which I agree is overstated in my case if not in Pax's. That does not justify you making stuff up to assert "intact". Since I cannot retire, I'm doing the next thing, and we shall all see how intact I am when it launches.

As for "censure", look it up. All the definitions that do not include the essential adjective "official" have to do with judgment, and unofficial judgments like all opinions vary. Mozilla received more criticism from all sides (and still does) than I did over what happened last spring.

BTW, I came here via subtweets. Feel free to at-name me directly in the future.




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