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And compared to a debit card? You have all the advantages you listed (except the rebate), but you're spending your own money.


The problem with debit is that the money is immediately gone. In the case of a dispute, it takes a long time to get the money back.


Right on the money. In the US at least, there are a ton of laws and protections for consumers when it comes to disputing charges and credit card fraud in general. It is much harder to do this with debit.


Debit cards are not accepted everywhere. Countless online transactions won't accept visa/Mastercard debit cards.


Have had only debit for 20years and never used credit. I have not seen a single transaction rejected because the visa/MC debit cards weren't credit cards. Either they aren't countless or they must be focused to a few countries.


And what happens when someone snarfs your number and clears your bank account out? How do you pay the rent? With credit, it's the banks money that gets stolen, and they worry about getting it back, not me.


https://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0213-lost-or-stolen-cr...

For consumers, credit vs debit is in theory about the same, in practice it's slightly different. The main difference though is consumer vs business. A business debit card attached to a checking account, is the same problem with fraud as the checking account itself, the burden is almost entirely on the business not the bank.


> With credit, it's the banks money that gets stolen

Regardless of debit or credit the CC company always has responsibility if there is fraud. With debit I might risk having an empty account for a longer period of time after an incident though (Refunds might take a while).

> How do you pay the rent?

I'd use credit.


>but you're spending your own money

How is spending your own cash an advantage over spending someone else's?


Not having to go into debt is an advantage IMHO.


You don't go into debt if you pay the bill when it comes. Or if using a charge card like American Express.


That's still debt, it's someone's money you are spending.


You cannot use debit for web transactions nor when in a different country.


False and false. Used visa and mc debit cards exclusively for 20 years all over the world and online.

You must be speaking of something different such as "Visa electron" debit cards.


I'm talking about Interac cards, which is what we usually mean when talking about debit cards in Canada:

http://interac.ca


Most banks have Visa or MC debit cards available now. You can use them online for most things, but at a PoS it defaults back to the Interac network.


Even USA ATMs and POS terminals happily accepted my european Maestro debit card, so that's not really true.


And building no credit rating.


This also puzzles me. Paying directly should inspire more trust than taking out credit and paying it off a few weeks later.


It's a reality in the states. But, yes, it's weird.

We model credit worthiness largely on past payments of credit; which means that we are incented to use the system.

I don't see using my credit card as really "using credit." I use it as a charge card and pay every bill as it comes; so it's merely a (30-59 day) float. I, of course, have a difference financial capability than much of the US, and recognize that privilege. For many people, CC float is what let's them live paycheck to paycheck and is the first brick in Americans penchant for debt.

That being said; there is a huge benefit to many consumers having a short term credit facility. It's as if the CC industry made a micro loans initiative. (And then proceeded to abuse it).


Making it even easier to keep yourself out of debt, at least until you fall for one of those payday loan scams.


Debt isn't bad. I recently purchased a car. Given my credit, I was offered 1.8% financing with first months interest paid for. If I took it, they would throw in a bunch of perks like lifetime oil changes, loaner cars for repairs, etc. I did, drove home, immediately paid off the loan, and continue to enjoy the benefits. No worrying about bank checks or cash or whatever. Credit makes my life so much easier. Credit and even debt is not the problem - it's living beyond your means.


What I did was take the money I would have used to pay the car off, and instead put it into a term deposit for the same duration as the loan payments, thus earning myself a couple percent above the loan rate with no risk.




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