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"divorcing payments from private bank deposits and even putting an end to banks’ ability to create money."

Are there economists that support the idea of stopping the creation of new money? I assumed this was an underlying requirement of a health currency? New value is created every day by thousands of different sources, and the currency needs to be able to expand at the same rate.



> New value is created every day

Not necessarily, and you may be conflating demand for a currency (which controls its valuation and exchange rate) with economic productivity in an economy.

Its not so much, I imagine, about stopping the creation of money - the economic fundamentals behind why inflation is good are obvious. The promise of digital currencies going forward is the hopeful removal of human irrationality from the process.

Would you prefer to trust the Federal Reserve, with all its own internal goals and motivations, to print money "honestly", or would you rather have an algorithm that adjusted the block payout rate to maintain constant 1% inflation in the monetary base, relative to monetary velocity? IE, when the money slows down, which implies money is being hoarded because its value is rising, you print more to offset it, and when money speeds up you reduce the printing speed to try to keep the velocity stable.


> Would you prefer to trust the Federal Reserve, with all its own internal goals and motivations, to print money "honestly", or would you rather have an algorithm that adjusted the block payout rate to maintain constant 1% inflation in the monetary base, relative to monetary velocity? IE, when the money slows down, which implies money is being hoarded because its value is rising, you print more to offset it, and when money speeds up you reduce the printing speed to try to keep the velocity stable.

At the moment I'd rather have a (democratically accountable) human in the loop. I don't have anything like the level of confidence in economic theory to trust any argument that 1% is the "right" level of inflation for all time. If there are unforseen shifts in the economy and we end up thinking that (say) 10% inflation is the best thing to do at the moment, I'd rather we had the capability to do that.


> or would you rather have an algorithm that adjusted the block payout rate to maintain constant 1% inflation in the monetary base, relative to monetary velocity

We have not yet found a consistent set of rules for setting monetary policy that work across the board. The problem is compounded for dual-mandate central banks such as the Federal Reserve. Even measuring inflation is a manual process - how would you code basket selection into your currency?


>Would you prefer..

Until we have evidence of an optimal money growth rate, I want the system to be flexible.

>keep the velocity stable.

Velocity is, basically, a fudge factor in the PQ = MV equation (as in, it makes the formula work). Is there any research that points to stable velocity being optimal? I think it changes drastically over time.

I think you're on the right track, and "the system" could definitely use more transparency and objectivity. But I don't think there's any algorithm near ready for prime time. The economy is too complex.


> Would you prefer to trust the Federal Reserve, with all its own internal goals and motivations, to print money "honestly", or would you rather have an algorithm that adjusted the block payout rate to maintain constant 1% inflation in the monetary base, relative to monetary velocity?

I would prefer that people not have to create their own promissory notes during economic booms because it's impossible to create a legitimate loan due to the current monetary supply. You're begging for a black market currency at that point.


> New value is created every day by thousands of different sources, and the currency needs to be able to expand at the same rate.

Why does the currency need to expand at the same rate? You could also have the real value of the currency appreciate. Before you say, 'that's deflationary' - many countries had large swaths of time when their currency was deflationary with little or no ill effect to the population, and increasing standards of living.


Deflationary currency discourages spending, increases the value of debt, causes people to hoard cash, and potentially causes wage unemployment.


What is the difference between "hoarding cash" and "saving" besides the fact that one sounds evil and the other virtuous?

(I don't intend that as a rhetorical question - I'm sincerely asking.)


Saving (as distinct from investment in productive things) is also bad for the economy. A small amount of buffer may smooth the working of the economy, but stored cash/assets are dead weight - it's better if people are spending immediately, keeping the cash circulating into productive things.


> but stored cash/assets are dead weight

Curious, are US treasuries or interest in a savings account considered "dead weight" in your definition?


Not completely dead but close to it. To the extent that they provide funding for government infrastructure, business loans and the like, they're productive. But AIUI that link is pretty thin these days.


If investing in Treasuries and Savings accounts are considered hoarding or "dead money" that's +/-$13T to $19T depending upon how you look at it for Treasuries [1] and $8.6T for savings [2].

[1] http://treasurydirect.gov/NP/debt/current [2] https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/WSAVNS


"Saving" usually refers to investments which are then loaned out to increase the velocity of money while "hoarding" does not.


Inflationary currency encourages consumption (and environmental destruction), decreases the value of debt (and causes people to pursue unsustainable risk on leverage), and cheats low- and fixed- income wage earners out of the value of their earnings disproportionately compared to the wealthy, necessitating minimum wage increases, which creates sporadic wage unemployment, which is more disastrous than gradual wage unemployment.


>Why does the currency need to expand at the same rate?

Because the demand for money and credit ebbs and flows. Why would you curb the supply? It's literally paper and bits.

Do you think there should be the same amount of money in a world of 100 people as there is in a world of 100 million?


Most of the forces driving new money creation doesn't seem to be about new value. The new money created benefits investment schemes for the privileged and to sustain Keynesian policies by the government.

Neither are inherently necessary for a growing economy. And there are other alternative ideas that are reasonable tools to expand the money supply if needed.


> I assumed this was an underlying requirement of a health currency?

You've just identified the most difficult problem facing the financial world today: how to expand the money supply at a rate that's fair to all market participants.

market participants === us


>New value is created every day by thousands of different sources

Value/resources are also lost and/or used up. Inflation is only necessary for an expanding human population.




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