Yeah, I don't argue it can't be done in thousands (maybe tens of thousands) of years.
I'm just saying it's probably unwise to focus and spend time and money on this right now. We probably won't even make it to that day. It's better to learn to live on Earth responsibly and then maybe, once we've learned our lessons, start looking further.
> I'm just saying it's probably unwise to focus and spend time and money on this right now. We probably won't even make it to that day. It's better to learn to live on Earth responsibly and then maybe, once we've learned our lessons, start looking further.
I'm quite thankful none of the European powers said "you know, we really should stabilize things here before we try and head west".
And when they landed in America? They KEPT PUSHING. In every single direction. Through revolutions, bloody coups, and multiple changes of government back in Europe, people kept exploring and expanding.
People from Europe colonized America because it's a beautiful continent, with great climate, a ton of gold and so on. Even if they didn't know that, that's what they were hoping for.
Elon on the other hand is trying to colonize a known deserted wasteland and propose it as a viable future home for humanity.
I don't understand this sentiment. It's so incredibly backwards.
What do you do for a living? Your profile says you work on DeployBot.com. Why? We have so many problems on why are you working on something to deploy code? Shouldn't you be working in medicine to help those in need? You shouldn't you be working on reducing CO2? You shouldn't be working on any code deployment tools until we solve healthcare. It's really irresponsible.
Do you see the issue here? There is no reason someone can't spend their money (or company's money) to pursue a goal they're passionate about.
You misunderstood what I was saying. I was not criticizing Elon Musk for working on this, it's a lot of fun and I imagine he's having the time of his life.
The discussion here is about the viability and importance of the goal of colonizing Mars. Elon is free to pursue any ideas and dreams, like everyone else. I was just offering my ideas about his ideas, and sometimes they oppose. Not everything has to be a circle jerk.
Yes, I work on DeployBot.com but I'm not pushing the agenda that humanity now needs to become "continuously deploying species" because that's what I enjoy.
> The discussion here is about the viability and importance of the goal of colonizing Mars. Elon is free to pursue any ideas and dreams, like everyone else. I was just offering my ideas about his ideas, and sometimes they oppose. Not everything has to be a circle jerk.
I mean you specifically say it's unwise and say we probably shouldn't bother until we learn some other lessons that you don't specify. That doesn't talk about viability or importance or really your ideas beyond some basic complaining.
I agree not everything should be a circle jerk and when it comes to Musk it's quite easy for HN and Reddit to go down that hole but at the same time I don't understand the empty criticism. That's not really criticism.
> Yes, I work on DeployBot.com but I'm not pushing the agenda that humanity now needs to become "continuously deploying species" because that's what I enjoy
So an announcement is "pushing an agenda"? I mean I would agree but why wouldn't everyone do that? You don't want to advertise yourself / what you do? Is there something bad about that? Your phrasing makes me think you're not a fan of press releases or announcements regarding things you disagree with.
But it seems you're damned if you do, damned if you don't.
I heard this guy Tesla was involved in a car company that was trying to make an nice electric car that produces no emissions. A noble pursuit in the direction you suggested, living here on Earth more responsibly. But then it turns out that those cars have huge costs in other areas.
