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> investors would have priced the loss into the stock price long ago

That's a misconception. The investors had done expectations. They were either met or unmet. But unless there is insider info, a project going bad won't get priced before the news is known.

Stuck prices isn't some magical thing that knows all. It's simply an average of what everyone believes. Beliefs are sometimes wrong.



Thinking about your last statement:

If the price were an average of beliefs, we would have people that believe it's worth more and people that think it's worth less. Those that think it is worth more would, logically, buy Google stock, and then the price would increase until we reached the price where people are somewhat on agreement that it isn't worth more. So, either there is a lack of funds to make the purchases, or the given price reflects the highest price someone is willing to pay for it, right?


Every stock trade reflects a disagreement between two parties about the value of the company, not an agreement on what it is worth. The buyer would rather own that stock than that amount of money. The seller would rather have the money. They can't both be right about which is more valuable.


> They can't both be right about which is more valuable

Actually, they can. As a simple example, they can agree on both price and volatility projections, but simply have different utility functions in terms of how much volatility they are willing to accept. Most simply, one of them might be 64 and about to retire while the other is 22 and just starting to invest in their retirement fund.

I expect that a majority of stock purchases/sales are in fact driven by such considerations and not fundamentals analysis...


You're right, of course, they don't just disagree about the value of the stock, they disagree about the value of money, and the meaning of 'value'.

But my point is that when you see that a stock is trading at a particular price, all that tells you is that one person has a utility function that values that amount of money higher than a unit of the stock, and one person has a utility function that is opposite it. There's no guarantee either of them have a utility function anywhere near your own. Which leads me to conclude that the net information content of a stock trade is, fundamentally, zero. And yet prediction markets work - go figure.


> There's no guarantee either of them have a utility function anywhere near your own.

Yep.

> Which leads me to conclude that the net information content of a stock trade is, fundamentally, zero.

It might not be if you have a bunch of trades, averaging over lots of people with different utility functions. Maybe. Depending on how average your utility function is.

In practice people end up with heuristics like "100 - age" and diversification out of stocks or hedging of their stocks to deal with the imperfect matchup between their utility function and the averaged one.

It's hard not to think of the whole thing as a house of cards sometimes.

> And yet prediction markets work

Sometimes they do. As long as everyone involved has broadly the same utility function: that of maximizing their money above all else. If enough people, or more properly enough monetary units, come in with a weird utility function (e.g. valuing a particular prediction more than their money), you get prediction market failures.


It also depends on "the lowest price someone is willing to sell at", and you can start sketching it graphically, and have to ignore "some people don't have the money to buy" and "this only applies to people actually trading stocks", but at the end it really has no impact on OP's point, namely that stock price is a reflection of a collective opinion, subject to the full range of flaws tainting all human perception.


The people who think it's worth more buy. The people who think it's worth less sell. They meet in the middle.

I suppose there is a bias in the fact that not all long positions have corresponding shorts, but that seems like it would be pretty minor.


> the given price reflects the highest price someone is willing to pay for it, right?

Sure. But how far can you infer backwards from that?




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