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Alright, so you spend $800 for a phone, and you're complaining that you can't spare $10?

I'm not saying removing the headphone jack to make the phone a mm thinner wasn't a retarded move, but... Really? $10?



If I buy an $800 device, I make sure it does what I want it to do with the least amount of friction (add/replace my other hardware).

What if I buy a router today and there is a company that sells routers with a nice gui, but all the rj45 jacks are removed and it requires a dongle on the power jack to be able to connect a rj45. (For some reason it comes with a dongle but that requires the router to run on batteries)

Anywho, I am not the guy that is going to buy apple hardware anyway. So I don't really have any impact on apple if I don't buy anything.


I'm buying a second-hand iPhone 6s instead of an iPhone 7 because of the headphone jack (mainly out of principle).

It's just that I see so many comments arguing that dongles are expensive... The problem is not that they're expensive. I agree that they suck, but I can't possibly believe that people that can afford to spend $1000 on an iPhone Plus all of a sudden can't afford a $10 or $29 dongle.


Agreed, if you buy it then it is your own responsibility to know that it requires more than just the money for the phone.

Then again, some people buy expensive cars and are surprised about the high price of spare parts. I guess many consumers like to pay a big amount of money for a single product, and not a big amount + 10 small amounts for a product that needs multiple other products during its life.

Its like a phone case, we all wish it wasn't necessary to have one, but many people buy cases because the phone needs it to stay nice/safe. And I don't think there is a solution readily available that makes phone cases abundant for those people.


I thought the removal was to recycle the space while making waterproofing easier.


The removal is to introduce a way to control which headphones are connected and to get license payments in the future.


Doubtful. My guess is within 1-2 generations max the iPhone will have USB C to follow the Macbook line.


This statement is false.


The removal is to sell dongles


Ah, true. That was mentioned as well.

It's amazing that people would pick an extra millimeter trimmed off or waterproofing over a headphone jack (I assume they did surveys..?).




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