No, my default is to look at the statistical evidence around me. The statistics are showing that we treat other races worse than we treat white people. Nothing I'm saying is a lie, so I'm not even sure how your expression applies.
> No, my default is to look at the statistical evidence around me.
No, you're going by anecdote and perception, which is why you fell back to "well I think it looks racist".
> The statistics are showing that we treat other races worse than we treat white people.
Who is we in this scenario? Keep in mind that you're trying to prove that the US is majority racist.
> Nothing I'm saying is a lie, so I'm not even sure how your expression applies.
You stated "if it acts like a duck... (it's probably a duck)" to sidestep having to prove that the US is systematically racist. To you, it's not a lie and you've constructed a fallacy in which the onus would be to convince you, personally to change your perception.
The expression applies because if everything and everyone is slated as racist, when actual racism happens, reports of it will just be lost in the noise.
Really? all those numbers I've pulled up is anecdote and perception? Interesting. Mind telling me how statistics works again?
I will admit that I don't know if I would argue that the US is majority racist (the op comment does indeed say that). I don't have the stats on that, and I don't legitimately think we could get those. So if that is what you are arguing for, I won't argue against. I'm only arguing that the US has a big problem with racism that we still need to deal with, which is far from solved. Enough that I would consider us a "racist" nation.
To be fair, that doesn't necessarily mean that the US is statistically racist, whatever that means. Societal racism in the past, immigration, etc can lead to a situation where a particular race will still be behind generations later in terms of wealth. It takes money to make money.
I think you're right that there's still societal racism in America but just looking at wealth doesn't account for immigration or past racism.
This is a good point. I guess you could call it "momentum" of a sort, but I'm not sure if it would be possible to get any real numbers on that. I'd love to hear ideas about how to do that though.
Racism is the name of certain kinds of prejudice, not results. When different races start out in different concrete circumstances and different norms taught by families, different results for them may or may not be caused by people acting on racist opinions.
