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They'll probably just end up turning off service over certain geographic areas.


Why would they do this?

EDIT: Data customers would pay for access on an individual basis. Helicopter-parent countries might cry foul, but what leverage do they have? It's not like they were going to launch things with SpaceX and they can threaten to stop.


I think they need licenses to use the radio spectrum. I believe Iridium set up a system in China so that all calls are routed through Chinese systems, so there is some historical precedent. The government of China also has anti-satellite weapons: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Chinese_anti-satellite_mi... .


A nation using an anti-satellite weapon against another entity's satellite would be an unlikely, enormous escalation.


OTOH one country enabling communication infrastructure to another country's citizens without approval of their government would be rightly considered as violation of national sovereignty and could presumably be seen as an act of war.


Radio has long been used to communicate propaganda across state lines. The relative ease of signal jamming is why it's not seen as an aggressive act.


But its the citizen of the country who initiated the communication, and the act of providing a service cannot be made as an excuse for war. At best, the citizen get prosecuted for illegal communication.


Anything can be used as an excuse for war.

You really think North Korea wouldn't damage a satellite giving its citizens open internet access if it had the ability to do so?


And one with profoundly self-destructive consequences too.


Lawsuits, or indirect pressure like limiting Tesla sales.

They could always keep operating anyway, but it's only a matter of time before these governments set up jammers.


> Data customers would pay for access on an individual basis.

At a subscriber level, monthly billing to 'SpaceX Broadband, Redmond' might be cause for inquisitive State Police to visit.

At a state level, the legality of jamming / interfering with satellites over national territory has never been definitively established. So SpaceX might find it easier to just turn-off over hostile nations than have them upset the network.


You'd set up a system where you pay the black market dealer and they in turn pay SpaceX from an account outside the country.


BitCoin?


And mining built into receivers...


It would be really cool if they offered a free tier with like say 200kbps or something.


> but what leverage do they have?

The buying, selling and using of satellite internet equipment will be outlawed in countries that don't allow free access to the internet (unless of course the internet satellite company signs agreements to impose the blocking of choice of the regime in question).

SpaceX might be safe from the Turkish, Chinese or Egyptian governments, but the users won't be.


But what incentive would satellite communication providers have to agree? Wouldn't it be better to facilitate a black market by not putting any blocks?


Sometimes one government has more common ground with the government of another country than it has with its own citizens. A country that does not want its citizens to have SpaceX provided Internet could lobby the US government to require it to be blocked.

You can bet that the US government will want to exert control over it anyway to some degree so even if they are not always sympathetic to other governments requirements that lack of sympathy is a negotiating position not a matter of principle.


They can jam whatever frequency the networks operates on. Or embargo any receiver/tramistter that could be used to connect to the network. Yes, some people would be able to work around any attempt at blockage, but that wouldn't scale to providing non-technical people with cheap/unrestricted internet.


Question for anyone who might know, would jamming work if you used highly directional antennas? Seems like it wouldn't really.


The antenna is already highly directional - those are LEO satellites we're talking about, you need to constantly track them.

How phased array antennas respond to jamming is unfortunately beyond my knowledge.


That's my point, if you have high gain in a particular direction, wouldn't interference coming from a different direction be mostly rejected? The point being, this could offer internet to people in repressed countries that can't practically be blocked or tampered with. If they coupled this with a free tier with low bandwidth it could be huge, assuming people could smuggle in the equipment to make it work.


Not an expert, but here is my take: A phased array consists of many individual, non-directional antennas. The directionality comes by cleverly combining the signal of the antennas. If there is a jamming signal, all antennas would receive it. In theory, it would then cancel out when the signals are combined. The question is now: Before the signal is combined, is there any element which can be saturated by the large jamming signal? If so, you can jam. The phased array direction is tune-able, so I assume the combination is done in the digital domain. That means ADC in between, which can be saturated. So my guess is: yes.


That was exactly my line of thinking, but I know very little of RF engineering.


If you couldn't jam the receiver, could you jam the satellite itself while it is over your territory? Direct enough signals at the satellite from your country that it can't respond to actual users? Sort of a DDoS attack?


The whole point above was about the black market. I.e. one that circumvents government attempts to ban it.


It would be a way to address problem of the National Radio Quiet Zone?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_National_Radio_Q...


Current satellites don't do anything special over the National Radio Quiet zone. Why should the SpaceX ones?




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