I'm the only one the remembers when this was called Startup News?

Business is a lot wider than startup, though. There has been a huge number of articles about Apple - I seriously don't understand how such a massive quantity of (often gossipy) articles about the ipad/iphone and friends got upvoted, especially considering their hacker-unfriendliness. Then also a lot about Google, Facebook, Microsoft, the RIAA, general politics...

I have to say that's surprising. I'm relatively new here, but I thought most people would get here through Paul Graham/YCombinator, which has more to do with business than programming.

personally I came here because I would randomly check paulgraham.com ever since his articles relating to lisp were being posted on slashdot. One day the YC link appeared which in turn had a link to hacker news. While I have gained an appreciation for start up culture(definitely the hacking approach to business) since then I still primarily hang around for articles on programming.

Paul Graham also used to be 80% programming and 20% business.

If you are looking for something that is 100% programming then http://news.usethesource.com/news is a good choice. It is built on the same platform as HN

Disclaimer - I have no affiliation with the amazing peeps at usethesource

Thanks! That's more or less what I was looking for.

maybe we need categories? Biz&politics, social, apple, math, IT, programming, and other as an initial set?

then, before you know it, you're Slashdot!

or worse, reddit/digg

It would be horrible for the guys at YC to have created a $200m+ business, right? http://techcrunch.com/2008/07/22/google-in-final-negotiation...