What you are asking for--somehow being immune to China deciding to ban the entire Internet--is an apology for China's behavior and fundamentally, plain and simple.
After all, what is the alternative? In the case of Google, the other option you seem to think is reasonable is for them to censor themselves... but that is a loss... that is in fact the primary loss condition.
That said, was Google leaving China the same kind of win for the Internet as what I am even talking about? No, because Google is but one company. My win condition is "China is forced to block some incredibly large percentage of the entire Western Internet", not "they block us" or "they block a few websites".
Google gave up long before I would say they won: their next step should have been to start doing exactly what we are now doing, shipping it as part of Google Chrome, and figuring out ways to distribute copies of the software in China.
There is a big difference between "celebrating being banned" and "celebrating your opponent being forced to make the difficult decision between salting their own earth to keep you from invading or accepting defeat".
This is all particularly the case given that my argument is rather consistent here that that won't happen: that China can't do that, as that is just too drastic of a move and it will cost them the support of businesses, citizens, and governments.
As for your final paragraph, every single decision made about Cydia was made within this moral framework... one which you do not support. You either should not be thanking me for what I did while working on it if you fundamentally refuse to support my methods and goals.
Honestly: it sounds like you would have preferred a world where I built a centralized Cydia and allowed Apple's censors access to the catalog... that completely misses the point of Cydia, so I don't know what you possibly wanted. With this attitude I not only don't feel the need to have you support Orchid, I would like to hand you back your false gratitude for Cydia :(.
After all, what is the alternative? In the case of Google, the other option you seem to think is reasonable is for them to censor themselves... but that is a loss... that is in fact the primary loss condition.
That said, was Google leaving China the same kind of win for the Internet as what I am even talking about? No, because Google is but one company. My win condition is "China is forced to block some incredibly large percentage of the entire Western Internet", not "they block us" or "they block a few websites".
Google gave up long before I would say they won: their next step should have been to start doing exactly what we are now doing, shipping it as part of Google Chrome, and figuring out ways to distribute copies of the software in China.
There is a big difference between "celebrating being banned" and "celebrating your opponent being forced to make the difficult decision between salting their own earth to keep you from invading or accepting defeat".
This is all particularly the case given that my argument is rather consistent here that that won't happen: that China can't do that, as that is just too drastic of a move and it will cost them the support of businesses, citizens, and governments.
As for your final paragraph, every single decision made about Cydia was made within this moral framework... one which you do not support. You either should not be thanking me for what I did while working on it if you fundamentally refuse to support my methods and goals.
Honestly: it sounds like you would have preferred a world where I built a centralized Cydia and allowed Apple's censors access to the catalog... that completely misses the point of Cydia, so I don't know what you possibly wanted. With this attitude I not only don't feel the need to have you support Orchid, I would like to hand you back your false gratitude for Cydia :(.