It would just pass the buck. What everyone on HN is clamoring for will result in basically more bureaucracy and longer EULAs with no actual change in business practice.
Businesses don't take it seriously because people don't actually care. Some do. The vast majority don't. They might say so in a survey, but at the end of the day, Facebook (and companies like it) will continue to survive doing what they always have been and people will continue using those services.
That's the root of the issue, though. People really don't care as much as posters on HN think they do. If we could acknowledge that, I think we could come up with better solutions.
If I had to bet, it will not be the case that we'll see some big exile of users as a result of having to click through an additional "Agree and Continue" dialogue to get to what they were going to do anyway. The GDPR will do a lot more to appear to be doing things right than actually benefiting users.
It depends. Courts could rule that click through licences don't constitute "informed consent", because let's be honest, people aren't informed about what they're signing.
Respectfully if users are honestly considered too dumb to read targeted dialog boxes, the regulation required to "fix" that "problem" is going to be downright draconian.
You have a right to learn what data they have about you, with whom they share it and a lot more details
In addition you can opt out of anything you agreed on earlier and
I would be surprised if you can't request deletion if the business has no business reason to store it. (Arguably, a difficult call with Facebook whom's entire raison d'être is to fuck with your privacy).
That's the root of the issue, though. People really don't care as much as posters on HN think they do. If we could acknowledge that, I think we could come up with better solutions.
FB didn’t drop billions in value because nobody cares, it’s just that most people take a lot of repetition to grasp the scope of the issue.
Looming regulatory threats will push any stock price down.
And I'm not selling people short. I think the risks are incredibly overstated and the people who appreciate free services (acknowledging some data sharing is happening) are not necessarily just dumb-dumbs being preyed upon.
> [Spammers] don't take it seriously because people don't actually care. Some do. The vast majority don't. They might say so in a survey, but at the end of the day, Facebook (and companies like it) will continue to survive doing what they always have been and people will continue using [email].
"People don't care" about things like this until there are consequences. Nobody cares about pollution until it impacts their health or destroys their property. Nobody cares about financial crime until it crashes the economy and costs them their job.
I think we're reaching the point where all these data mining honeypots we've built over the past 20 years are being used in ways that are nefarious enough that people are starting to care.
I feel like claims like these are easy to make, yet very difficult to substantiate.
I think it's in the media a lot right now because it potentially helped Donald Trump win an election (despite the Obama '12 campaign being praised for similar tactics).
People having the data I put on Facebook (which is not notably more than is available through public sources) is not going to destroy my property or lose me my job. The rhetoric here has been dialed up to 11 and it's not winning any converts.
Businesses don't take it seriously because people don't actually care. Some do. The vast majority don't. They might say so in a survey, but at the end of the day, Facebook (and companies like it) will continue to survive doing what they always have been and people will continue using those services.
That's the root of the issue, though. People really don't care as much as posters on HN think they do. If we could acknowledge that, I think we could come up with better solutions.