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Newton's thinking was not broadly acceptable to Christians in his day either. He was a Unitarian! He specifically didn't believe in the Trinitarian understanding of God that had already been essential to mainstream Christianity for centuries by that point.

Churchill was a drinker. There's plenty of evidence into the 21st century that functioning alcoholics are able to maintain status in most walks of life including politics. Or were you thinking of something else?




It was specifically the publicising of his role in the Bengal famine that was my primary motivation to contend that Churchill's character is no longer - since the last couple of years even - held quite so highly.

Dresden is a much trickier call AFAIK, I don't think this is used widely as an indication of Churchill being morally deficient.


I don't think GP is referring to Churchill's drinking. Instead I think it is more so about his crassness and racist tendencies.


Fascinating, alas in the timeline I live on all the headlines are about the crass racist in the White House or the one about to take residence in 10 Downing Street. In fact the latter explicitly models himself on Churchill. Still, I applaud the cultured people of GGP's timeline for their wokeness.


Yes, but I should hope that neither country is about to put Trump or Johnson on a bank note! To me, being worthy of becoming a symbolic role model requires very different virtues than being someone I would vote for, and I say this as someone who wouldn't vote for either Trump or Johnson.





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