Data races and race conditions are orthogonal, according to some: https://blog.regehr.org/archives/490

I think you've disagreed with this in the past, and I don't know how to resolve that. But certainly, I think we can agree that saying that Rust's safety story prevents race conditions is, at minimum, very imprecise.

Oops, I wasn't trying to reopen an argument. I didn't recall us having discussed it before (still don't, but I forget things easily).

And yeah, I'd agree with your last sentence.

Ah yeah, it could have been someone else... Not sure. It was a while ago. Anyway, I don't personally have a strong opinion here on definitions here. (I'm not qualified to.)