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[flagged] Tell HN: Happy International Men’s Day
35 points by okhshhdba on Nov 19, 2020 | hide | past | favorite | 19 comments
Hope everyone is holding up well despite the times; you’re appreciated.

Enjoy the day!



I've looked at the themes and it looks like many of them were inspired from MRA (Male Right Activists) community. I think it's an important day to raise awareness of some important issues that men face in today's society, including the high suicide rate (as compared to women), the overall lower life expectancy and so on.


I sincerely hope that no boys or young men who are depressed see Twitter today as there are so many posts that effectively say "you don't have a right to be listened to today because we feel that you have it easy every other day". There's no nuance at all, just derision, rage and attacks.

In 50 years time there will be books that directly point to Twitter as being one of the worst inventions in human history.


From Wikipedia, the theme for 2020 International Men's day is: "Better health for Men and Boys"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Men's_Day


I do appreciate some of the men in my life and so yea..I will wish them so today.

Happy International Men’s Day, Men of HN.

How do men celebrate their special day?


Well, I lived overseas for a few years, so I suppose I'm an International Man. Thank you for the support!


Isn't today also world toilet day, and a bunch of other's too?


International Journalist's Remembrance Day

World Toilet Day

International Men's Day

Citizen's Day

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_minor_secular_observan...


We really don't need a special day...


Why do you say that?


Because it's spiking the football.


I agree in general. Special days for a group seems like a subtle dig rather than genuine gratitude. Plus, aren't there underdog groups like homeless, speech disfluent, ADD, sex workers, struggling immigrants, seriously depressed, bipolar, schizophrenics, absolutely banished sex offenders who can't get housing or work, and dyslexics who need more awareness?


There are plenty of problems that are unique to men, whether that fits your narrative or not. Vastly higher suicide rates, vastly higher workplace deaths, widespread infant male genital mutilation even in developed countries, selective service, court bias (criminal, divorce, and custody), lower life expectancy, vastly higher war casualty rates. Is it really that upsetting to you for these issues to take the spotlight in the context of masculinity for one day a year?

By the way, most of those groups you listed already have awareness days.


>whether that fits your narrative or not.

Why are you immediately lowering the bar of the conversation to petty insults?


Because the bar was already lowered. Hiding disingenuity behind civility doesn't make it any less petty.


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I think part of the issue is that all the things that men fare worse in that you listed out are the results of a society that is controlled by men. Men are doing this to themselves.

The problem for women is that the negative societal aspects of their lives are not controlled by women - it's still largely controlled by men. Same for people of color in the US - their lives are largely controlled by white people (and specifically white men).

I think even for the wildest of misogynists out there (I am in no way implying this is you or anyone on HN) it's hard to argue that the world would not be drastically different if it was mostly controlled by women.


>I look forward to seeing your past or future statements regarding the same issue but for women, e.g. Women's Day, Mother's Day, Equal Pay Day, and myriad others.

You're making an implication without saying it for some reason, so excuse me if I'm misinterpreting, but it wouldn't be hypocritical to think a "day" is more appropriate for one group and less appropriate for another, regardless of the metric used for definition. Men and women are different. Everybody is different.

That said, I have no problem with the concept of a men's day.


I don't believe any identity group needs a day because can come across as trite and patronizing. Golden Rule, gratitude, and go forth.


It can be used as an easy PR move to shine a spotlight on some group specific issues, like prostate cancer or breast cancer or etc.

It doesn't have to be negative 'we demand stuff for our group' day.


Yes. Two things might be conflated: innate attribute (ie, biological gender) and awareness (ie, type of cancer). A mother's day#, aunt's day, or a men's day seems to subtly poke at how a group is taken for granted; that doesn't mean they need a day or special help.

I get every PR means can help as part of a holistic strategy for awareness.

# Maybe mostly commercial inventions.




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