Yes, we have. Germany took over Eastern Germany just 2 decades ago and paid huge amounts of money to get the East to a more or less equal level. The result is that the old communists that had destroyed Eastern Germany, today still get over 30% of the votes by people without memory.
Its no use to help people from the outside. People must learn to run their own countries themselves.
In the case of Greece, they have to learn to not cheat to get money from Europe (like they did to get into the Euro Zone) and to pay taxes if they want that the government does stuff. Especially the wealthier people in Greece seem to be extremely selfish in that regard.
As far as I know, Germany did some nasty things while overrunning East Germany: Like, they replaced the staff of East Germany universities with West professors, throwing East professors out. Also, when choosing whether to bankrupt some East factory or refit it, they almost always chose to bankrupt (think Trabant)
And concerning "old communists that had destroyed Eastern Germany" - Eastern Germany was, like, the richest communist state. It wasn't politically free, sure, but it was fine economically.
Now, why would you expect people "without money" who did have the money (and job, and their life) before reunification, not vote for who they vote for?
They kicked communists (usually agents of the Stasi, the secret police) out of government jobs, most of those had gotten the job because they were party members. That is hardly "nasty". The other way around would have been nasty.
Would you want Gaddhafi's son to keep his military pay after the regime has been overthrown?
If you deprive reasonably successful people of their jobs (and therefore self-respect, identity and lifestyle) - surely they would be bitter and revisionistic. The fact that you-ve tossed them a bone and they aren't starving won't help much.
Disgruntling teachers and workers would not get you much popularity. People would vote for anyone who is not responsible for that. You insisting that anyone who suffered was a putrid Stasi agent would certainly make matters worse.
If two Koreas one day would unite, this would be their second severe problem after economy.
And by the way I don't understand why you assume I support the invasion of sovereign country that is Libya and installing some puppet government there. Of course I don't.
Tell that to the people who vote "wrong".
And we'll see what they'll tell you.
Of course when we see an intervention of a country, it's a total and complete responsibility of interventor to preserve any economic and industrial infrastructure.
Trabant wasn't bankrupt in East Germany.
It was bankrupt in Germany.
Who do you think is responsible for that?
Trabant went away because their product had exactly zero chance of competing in the market. A trabant was barely even a car in comparison to, say, a honda or VW. Trabants had more in common with lawnmowers, both in terms of mechanics and in terms of production conditions.
And your assumption that trabant's factories could be refitted in any way is quite a stretch. Would it really be cheaper to modernize a factory that's 30+ years out of date, rather than start over with a new building? And what would be the point anyway? Just jobs? Would not the investment be better targeted at infrastructure, mass transit, job training, etc?
I didn't say that this question has a determined answer.
What I did say: People are rightfully angry because their life was screwed by something not in their control.
It's been twenty years since the Germany reunited; Whatever problems still remaining at the former East Germany, probably aren't caused by communists anymore.
