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IIRC reflection in the optics.

Two of the three videos can be explained away just by reading the data overlaid on the video and applying some middle school-level geometry to it.



Think for a moment.

You're saying the military is unable to distinguish lense glare from an actual object.

Multiple systems, radar, eyeballs.

Come on.


> You're saying the military is unable to distinguish lense glare from an actual object.

I'm not saying that. I know they can, and I claim they're withholding the relevant data and their real conclusions on purpose, because they want this to be a story.

My current belief is that those three videos are primarily technology demonstrators, released purposefully by the US military, in order to show off in front of foreign powers. For example, the GOFAST video is the one where data overlaid on the image + basic geometry tells you they're tracking a bird, but the subtext of that video is that US fighter planes can track a bird-sized object, from 6 kilometers away, while flying half the speed of sound. This is what Russian and Chinese militaries see when watching that video.

I haven't followed all the official comments on this thoroughly, but IIRC, what we have is, confirmation these videos are real, information that the military wants pilots to be more eager to come forward when they see something unusual, and that some information has been given to some people in the Congress. You mention "Multiple systems, radar", but I've only heard it being said they "saw something" - no actual details have been released, as far as I know.

So there's that, plus a bunch of people recounting their experiences and thoughts in front of cameras; the snippets I've seen look like the usual bullshit that is aired on US cable - I don't trust that at all, because since when anything trustworthy was first revealed in one of those places? Other than that, there's a few people making lots of money playing this up as bona fide alien encounter - they are the ones that drive publicity for this topic.

(And to answer the possible questions about why the US would want to show off superior capabilities - ever since nuclear-tipped ICBMs became a thing, it's in the interest of all nuclear powers to stay in lockstep wrt. their military capabilities, lest one of the party decides they're so far behind their only chance for survival is a preemptive nuclear strike.)


Why would the US fabricate fake UFO videos to send to Russian/ Chinese militaries a message that is, as you imply, perfectly clear? They're the only recipients of the message, they understand it well, and nobody else cares about it. So why don't they just say it plain and openly?

So your explanation implies multiple conspiracies mixed with sensor errors, lying or actually crazy pilots, and a general pretension of being clueless, to send a message of having some advanced technology you could easily publish about in a military tech journal?


This explanation disregards that the gimbal was observed across aircraft and across sensors. The Aircraft were chasing something that the ships too "saw" (using dissimilar technologies).


OK. I didn't know there were multiple observations of it. I only heard about the explanation of lens-flare type effect that rotated with the gimballing camera to make it look like the object was rotating.




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