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It is a bad thing. We should go back to where only the middle class can afford quality protein like chicken.

Let the poor eat beans I always say!



“Quality” protein is found in plants as well as animals.

There’s no reason that eating chicken is better for a person than eating plants, especially with current state of plant-based foods and recipes that are available making it easy to eat delicious plant-based foods that aren’t just a bowl of beans.


I never said it was better, I'm in complete agreement it's a preference.

Are you prepared to have chicken at $10/lb? Make it a luxury only the middle class can afford?


yeah, but protein-dense plants cause flatulence


one could also eat less and receive the same nutritional benefits. today's giant chickens do not seem to be nutritionally dense, flavorful and the unnatural steroids and estrogen levels are certainly worse consumed, than not


Today's chickens have more muscle mass. They are bred for this trait.

Are you arguing this larger muscle isn't made of protein? What is it made out of then?

Are you arguing these chickens somehow survive without the nutrients that others chickens need to live? How is that possible?

Those are some pretty tall claims you need to back up.


Are you implying that malnutrition or a nutrient deficiency results in immediate death? Death quicker than the 50 days it takes to butcher the chicken?


Are you implying farmers raise these fast-growing, extra-large birds through "malnutrition and nutrient deficiency"?


Yes, I am. Because I am active in the weightlifting community, I'm aware that muscle size has absolutely no correlation with nutrition or micronutrients beyond protein intake. This is extremely obvious if you ever took steroids, because you can become huge eating McDonald's and instant noodle, but even without them the same effect is observed.


So you're saying it's possible to gain massive muscle mass while being, to quote you - "malnourished and having nutrient deficiencies"?


Yes, it is. Nutrition is more than calories. Just as you can become obese with nutrient deficiencies, you can also become muscular with them.




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